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Weirdly enough I had a whole bunch of ad's appear for Dell laptops before posting this! I've got my eye on a couple of HP devices from PB tech that are out of stock currently, expected soon. Will browse the refurbed one's for interest too..

 

Clarification on my last post:  "Lenovo Thinkpad (P)"  refers to Thinkpad T4x (P).  "P" components (CPU/RAM) are upgradable whereas "S" are not, being designed for low power/long battery life.

The ThinkPad T4/T5 line compete directly against HP's EliteBook.