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  #624743 14-May-2012 11:24

Well if the current 3g prices are anything to go by... I seriously doubt there will be any price differences from 3-4G



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  #624754 14-May-2012 11:34
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akia: More details are here: http://www.telecom.co.nz/mobile/mobile/ournetwork/buildinga4gfuture

And you can register here: http://www.telecom.co.nz/4Gtrialreg


Hi akia,

I am interested for the trial but the registration form is not encrypted.  Can you please encrypt that form?  I don't want to send my personal details in clear text.

Thanks!

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  #624756 14-May-2012 11:37
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@AKLWestie - I've put this to our digital team, will let you know what they say.



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  #624779 14-May-2012 12:11
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jonb:
lxsa: I will hold off buying an iPad 3 then until 4G is offered then.
I hope it competes with broadband packages(alternative to broadband)


I wouldn't bother waiting.  Without researching, I doubt the 4g bands of the iPad3 will be compatible with the NZ 4g trail bands.  There are some places where you can get 22Mb/s data rates with vodafone already, and XT is plenty fast enough to almost anything you want.

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They aren't compatible. Even the 700MHz LTE band that the iPad does support if the US/Canada 700MHz spec, which is a different bandplan to the APAC 700MHz LTE bandplan that will cover the entire APAC region and South America so a current LTE iPad won't work on any future 700MHz LTE network in NZ anyway.




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  #624787 14-May-2012 12:23
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sbiddle: One would presume it'll be 1800MHz, the same band that Vodafone will be using for their LTE rollout. 

I see 1800 being a key frequency now in the APAC region, especially with operators in Australia having already deployed LTE in this band.




That would be rather pointless as they're going 700 meg after the analog TV shutdown.  Either they have to  supply  multiband LTE devices or maintain two networks 700 / 1800 for  the next 5 years or so 




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  #624802 14-May-2012 12:49
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SteveON: Got all excited then had a look at their plans... Eek!


Where are the plans? Couldnt see any.

 
 
 
 

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  #624803 14-May-2012 12:49

old3eyes:
sbiddle: One would presume it'll be 1800MHz, the same band that Vodafone will be using for their LTE rollout. 

I see 1800 being a key frequency now in the APAC region, especially with operators in Australia having already deployed LTE in this band.




That would be rather pointless as they're going 700 meg after the analog TV shutdown.  Either they have to  supply  multiband LTE devices or maintain two networks 700 / 1800 for  the next 5 years or so 


You will find that they will have aerials and gear that supports both. Many of the new aerials support many bands. You may find that some of the current 3g antennae supports 4G signals and only requires new hardware.


loganjames:
SteveON: Got all excited then had a look at their plans... Eek!
 

Where are the plans? Couldnt see any.
 

Have a look at the telecom site. If you take a look at how 3G was implemented; all that happened was the speed went up but the plans stayed the same. They have already indicated that if you are out of 4G it will drop down to HSPA+. This is an indicator that the current 3g data allocations/prices will be the same.

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  #624832 14-May-2012 13:16
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I'm also interested in the bands being used. Decided i'd see what is being used around the world - heres wikipedias list catergorized by frequency

700 is used in
Uzbekistan, Puerto Rico, United States (Verizon, AT&T)

800 is used in
Sweden, Germany, South Korea

900 is used in
Sweden

1700 is used in
Canada, Puerto Rico, United States (metro PCS, AT&T, Cricket)

1800 is used in
Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hong Kong, Angola, Australia, Belgium, Hungary, Lithuania, Poland, Singapore, South Korea

1900 is used in
United States (metro PCS, Sprint

2100 is used in
Canada, Japan, Nigeria, Puerto Rico, United States (metro PCS, AT&T, Cricket)

2300 is used in
India

2600 is used in
Armenia, Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Hong Kong, Kyrgyzstan, Lithuania, Norway, Russia, Singapore, Sweden, Switzerland, Uzbekistan.

1800 and 2600 seem to be the most prevalent. The most relevant to us im guessing will be 1800 with 700 in the future.

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  #624834 14-May-2012 13:35
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I was passing the local Telecom shop (Hamilton) this morning and saw the signwriter finishing off a big window sign advertising 4G LTE which also asked those interested in 4G to make enquiries at the shop. 

Does this mean there will be a trial in the Hamilton area as well or is this just drumming up future interest in the new 4G service?

Seems to be a bit early to be promoting a network that is yet to be built.




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  #624839 14-May-2012 13:38
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Market fragmenttion is going to be a massive issue with LTE, it'll be far, far worse than GSM or WCDMA ever was/is until we start seeing some smart software radios that can support every band.



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  #624841 14-May-2012 13:39
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SteveON: Have a look at the telecom site. If you take a look at how 3G was implemented; all that happened was the speed went up but the plans stayed the same.

The plans did not stay the same; you had to move to an XT plan.

 
 
 
 

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  #624843 14-May-2012 13:45
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cries because i dont live in either wellington or auckland :( I would love to join in this "trial" :)





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  #624882 14-May-2012 14:22
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Have to put my name down for this, looks good!




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  #624884 14-May-2012 14:24
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eXDee: I'm also interested in the bands being used.

According to NBR it's 1800/2600 MHz.

Edit: Although I can't actually find any licences for those bands in SMART.

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  #624901 14-May-2012 14:50
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sbiddle: Market fragmenttion is going to be a massive issue with LTE, it'll be far, far worse than GSM or WCDMA ever was/is until we start seeing some smart software radios that can support every band.




Totally agree, whilst better chipset can support more frequency bands but they costs more.  Market driven fragmentation creates less competition for a small market like ours.

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