Telecom VDSL 2 Shaped to 1.7mb?

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#955185 19-Dec-2013 23:30

2Mb/s (little b represents bit)

you must mean 2MB/s? (capital B represents Byte)

8 bits = 1 byte

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#955188 19-Dec-2013 23:32

it is possible that everyone you are downloading from is giving you stuff capped at 2MBps?

try downloading from Microsoft. they are pretty lightning fast. not sure about apple or adobe. the biggest corporations could show you how fast your connection is?

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#955476 20-Dec-2013 13:47

joker97: it is possible that everyone you are downloading from is giving you stuff capped at 2MBps?

try downloading from Microsoft. they are pretty lightning fast. not sure about apple or adobe. the biggest corporations could show you how fast your connection is?

Still sits at about 1.7MB/s - 2MB/s I guess it could just be the lines around where i live until they get upgraded.

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#955477 20-Dec-2013 13:49

Ladygrace:
joker97: it is possible that everyone you are downloading from is giving you stuff capped at 2MBps?

try downloading from Microsoft. they are pretty lightning fast. not sure about apple or adobe. the biggest corporations could show you how fast your connection is?

Still sits at about 1.7MB/s - 2MB/s I guess it could just be the lines around where i live until they get upgraded.

Why would you possibly say that when you yourself show that the speedtests (which use the same lines) give results that are exactly what you could expect from a local, well connected site?

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#955490 20-Dec-2013 14:18

Ladygrace:
joker97: it is possible that everyone you are downloading from is giving you stuff capped at 2MBps?

try downloading from Microsoft. they are pretty lightning fast. not sure about apple or adobe. the biggest corporations could show you how fast your connection is?

Still sits at about 1.7MB/s - 2MB/s I guess it could just be the lines around where i live until they get upgraded.

If it really is 1.7MB/s - 2MB/s and not 1.7Mbps - 2Mbps then that's not bad and about what you should expect.

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#955507 20-Dec-2013 14:40

2 MB/s is about 16 Mbps, which is pretty good for a download rate.

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#955517 20-Dec-2013 15:02

i also had this issue on VDSL i changed to a static IP that bypassed the "cache" system and it works perfectly now.

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#955653 20-Dec-2013 21:17

looks like a bit of a confusion here, taking examples such as torrents, and speedtests, which often use more than a single connection thread, compared to a single thread on its own....

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#955659 20-Dec-2013 21:53

hio77: looks like a bit of a confusion here, taking examples such as torrents, and speedtests, which often use more than a single connection thread, compared to a single thread on its own....

Yip plenty of confusion. Rereading this thread I don't think there actually is a problem.

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#956267 22-Dec-2013 18:05

I don't see any real issues here either. If you were to download from multiple sources, you are highly likely to be able to get up to the maximum bandwidth that your line allows. Not everthing you download from (or upload to) will do it as fast as your line allows... servers do have hundreds if not millions of connections to provide to, and aren't going to give you what you want as fast as your end can go.

If sites such as youtube gave people lots of bandwidth, they could loose control over their costs. And with us being in NZ and having to do things through a limited international connection, I believe there is some caching going on as well to help reduce the load for videos that are accessed repetitively by NZ customers.

Sometimes there can be some throttling, especially when it comes to lower priority traffic such as peer to peer. I think the people who would benefit the most using a really high speed connection would be those with multiple users using the same line (family's or lots of flatmates), and/or those who have a high demand (torrents, gaming, other downloads, perhaps all of these things simultaneously).

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#956298 22-Dec-2013 20:13

I have removed one comment from a competitor telco.

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#956316 22-Dec-2013 21:14

Slixious: I don't see any real issues here either. If you were to download from multiple sources, you are highly likely to be able to get up to the maximum bandwidth that your line allows. Not everthing you download from (or upload to) will do it as fast as your line allows... servers do have hundreds if not millions of connections to provide to, and aren't going to give you what you want as fast as your end can go.

If sites such as youtube gave people lots of bandwidth, they could loose control over their costs. And with us being in NZ and having to do things through a limited international connection, I believe there is some caching going on as well to help reduce the load for videos that are accessed repetitively by NZ customers.

Sometimes there can be some throttling, especially when it comes to lower priority traffic such as peer to peer. I think the people who would benefit the most using a really high speed connection would be those with multiple users using the same line (family's or lots of flatmates), and/or those who have a high demand (torrents, gaming, other downloads, perhaps all of these things simultaneously).

personally, as its just the gf and myself using our vdsl connection, ild like to think im not gonna hit sort of caching issue like this.

for a family, it would be great, sure. but at the end of the day, multiple threads will end up being used excessively to get around the issue when its not needed.

ild be a little unhappy getting 1.7MB/s to my server, considering im happily getting the solid 5.5MB/s on my current provider on a single thread for arguments sake..

caching is awesome, but it shouldnt be used as a complete reliance.

biggest issue in NZ with high speed connections imo, would be not being able to window scale, to achieve a greater speed over higher latency, i see it on a regular basis, customers whos network between them and us cant scale.. leading to far worse speeds (mainly seen with aus clients rather than NZ, but same theory applys).

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#956325 22-Dec-2013 21:55

Yes, I know, but better leave Telecom people to do their magical work.

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#956571 23-Dec-2013 14:09

Ladygrace:

Still sits at about 1.7MB/s - 2MB/s I guess it could just be the lines around where i live until they get upgraded.

You should be able to get near line rate from local servers, international downloads though will be affected by lots of factors eg: latency, the route taken, capacity at their end and so on.

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#956594 23-Dec-2013 14:40

can we be fairly safe to say if your line test on speedtest shows 37/10 Mbps your line is fine, the s[eed bump is not the telco's fault?

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