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  #1293769 29-Apr-2015 17:30
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If you are in business and using the ISP email address, I would likly pass over you for the next tradesperson in the google results. Same if you only have a 0800 number for contact.




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  #1293782 29-Apr-2015 17:45
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richms: If you are in business and using the ISP email address, I would likly pass over you for the next tradesperson in the google results. Same if you only have a 0800 number for contact.


Seeing someone with a website and domain (www.tradename.co.nz) with an @xtra.co.nz email address drives me mad.

  #1293813 29-Apr-2015 18:43
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muppet: Regarding the phone:

I know change is scary and all that, but with 2Talk (or any other VoIP provider) you can just buy an ATA (it does all the VoIP stuff and just gives you a phone jack) and then you can keep using your existing landline phone(s).  We use 2Talk here in Napier for exactly the reason you're talking about, my wife's parents ring on the landline as do other members of her family.  They all just think that "landline is cheap/easy".  Which it is, I agree.  All 2Talk local calling is free, I think. Or a bunch of minutes are included anyway.
The only big issue you'll hit is that rotary phones won't work and yes, you'll lose your ATA/Internet in a power outage, so you'll have no landline.  This can be mitigated with a UPS however.  If you're getting a fibre connection now, isn't your phone being provided by the ONT anyway, using your power?  Or do you still have the real old-school actual copper?


We have ADSL now with spark with Copper line on a new sub-division stand alone house. 
Just been updated on Chorus that we can get UFB 200 now. 
I agree with your statement of loosing copper being scary however I rather keep my business with one provider rather than multiple, hence the question of VOIP / speeds to spark. 

I think I will stick with Spark for now and when new plans come / in future - will migrate to the latest & greatest. 





  #1293814 29-Apr-2015 18:46
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wasabi2k:
maxeon:
wasabi2k: phone numbers are portable and why on earth would you want to keep using xtramail?

Just change to gmail/something isp independent. It really isn't that difficult.


I was always in the opinion of "It is always good to keep a Local ISP based email address". 


I don't understand why. Something like Gmail is far more reliable with a much better feature set?




hmm .. agree to the above, it is a slow transition. Mainly used for daily deals / and subscriptions to be honest ;)


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  #1293816 29-Apr-2015 18:50
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maxeon:
We have ADSL now with spark with Copper line on a new sub-division stand alone house. 
Just been updated on Chorus that we can get UFB 200 now. 
I agree with your statement of loosing copper being scary however I rather keep my business with one provider rather than multiple, hence the question of VOIP / speeds to spark. 

I think I will stick with Spark for now and when new plans come / in future - will migrate to the latest & greatest. 


Suprising that there would be copper in a new subdivision. Is it in a non chorus UFB area where they are desperate to cling onto what revenue they can get at or something?




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  #1293822 29-Apr-2015 19:13
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I have been with 2Talk for about 6 months and it works really well. You can take it with you from ISP to ISP or on holiday overseas even. You can have it connecting to/switch between a traditional phone, smart phone or a PC. You can have a local calling number in the area of your choice. Brilliant idea/system.

Off topic:

A friend of mine bought a property & built a house in a subdivision on the fringe of Auckland about 9 months agao and there was no fiber. They did not utilise a pre-existing conduit when installing fiber at my house (but dug up my driveway - Grr). In general UFB doesn't seem to be well planned in terms of picking the low hanging fruit. Also, I would have expected the Saturn's/Telstra-Clear's of New Zealand to be chucking their cables into the open trenches in subdivions, in order to compete with Chorus/Spark/Telecom. Seems like oppotunity missed eh?

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  #1293825 29-Apr-2015 19:19
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No point putting your own cables in when the govt is paying a crapload to chorus or the others to do it, and you would have to pay full price for it and then deliver a return on it against a cheaper product.

A new subdivision with no fiber is insane. Probably short sightnedness on the developers part moreso than any of the telcos.





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maxeon: Hi,
We have been with Spark for too long now. Planning to move to Fibre shortly and Bigpipe seems to be very attractive for their speeds of 200/200. Anyone know if Spark is going to offer anything like that in future? 

I really want to remain with Spark as their customer to continue using their xtramail - and also keep the same Landline number, but the speeds are only 100/50. 

Bigpipe offering is very good, except I will probably end up paying for two ISP's for Phone & Internet and possibly for xtramail. 

Thanks

This doesn't answer your question at all, but: you can't have it both ways!

My wife and I use a landline as we both have parents in their 80s who don't, and won't, use mobiles and feel it's too expensive to call our mobiles from their landlines to waffle on about nothing for an hour. We call them from our mobiles using the minutes included with the mobile plan - particularly my dad as he's at the other end of the island. We've pretty much agreed that as soon as they're all dead we're dropping the landline!

According to Chorus we're not scheduled to get UFB in our street until somewhere between July 2016 and June 2017 so I upgraded from ADSL to VDSL and that's easily fast enough for us now.

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richms:
maxeon:
We have ADSL now with spark with Copper line on a new sub-division stand alone house. 
Just been updated on Chorus that we can get UFB 200 now. 
I agree with your statement of loosing copper being scary however I rather keep my business with one provider rather than multiple, hence the question of VOIP / speeds to spark. 

I think I will stick with Spark for now and when new plans come / in future - will migrate to the latest & greatest. 


Suprising that there would be copper in a new subdivision. Is it in a non chorus UFB area where they are desperate to cling onto what revenue they can get at or something?


Flat Bush is the area, mission height zone. This area was scheduled to have UFB by 2017 and they are 2 year ahead of the schedule :) happy times.. 


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