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DarkShadow
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  #1951190 3-Feb-2018 17:42
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spearsniper:

 

Interestingly, Skinny website has us showing as unable to receive 4G at our address, yet we have both spark and farmside 4G modems here working perfectly well. Both modems look remarkably similar to the Skinny supplied ones.

If Spark and Skinny being the same company use the same tower, with the same 4G technology, then surely I should be able to get my 120GB of internet for half the price, with similar speeds.

 

 

If I guess correct you are rural. Which means there's not much competition, so Spark can charge you more money.




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  #1951226 3-Feb-2018 19:28
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DarkShadow:

 

If I guess correct you are rural. Which means there's not much competition, so Spark can charge you more money.

 

 

There's the interesting thing. We are rural, but getting our internet from town - both Spark, and Vodafone towers are on the same road.
Everyone in town serviced by these towers show as being able to get the Skinny wifi.



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  #1951227 3-Feb-2018 19:30
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So apply for skinny B.B. from a friend in towns address, change the delivery address and .... profit?



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  #1951228 3-Feb-2018 19:32
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PhantomNVD: So apply for skinny B.B. from a friend in towns address, change the delivery address and .... profit?


Just a fyi. Addressing isn't just per tower/cell.




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  #1951236 3-Feb-2018 20:27
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spearsniper:

 

DarkShadow:

 

If I guess correct you are rural. Which means there's not much competition, so Spark can charge you more money.

 

There's the interesting thing. We are rural, but getting our internet from town - both Spark, and Vodafone towers are on the same road.
Everyone in town serviced by these towers show as being able to get the Skinny wifi.

 

Or it could be just a capacity constraint especially if it is a small town and there are only something like one or two towers for the whole town. Maybe in the long term they'll add more cells sites using the 2300Mhz especially if it means that they can wean themselves off a dependency on Chorus thus apart from the initial outlay for capital expenditure (which is dropping as technology gets cheaper to produce) the interestign part will be whether Chorus tries to retreat from rural areas and let wireless be the provider and Chorus provide the backbone. 





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  #1951255 3-Feb-2018 22:30
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But not if they are just outside town and Skinny BB is available to the townies? There must be capacity if others can get it.

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  #1951261 3-Feb-2018 22:37
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Spark need to be careful about what they sell to rural, as this can affect future plans for any wholesale rural broadband. I know Vodafone can't sell their cheaper urban wireless plans to anyone rural, as this will be in serious breach of their regulated RBI wholesale deed: I.e. would mean big fine, or massive drop in the regulated wholesale price.
As for Skinny pricing; think of this as being simular to cheap grab a seat deals for flying. I.E. Spark "dump" a certain amount of spare capacity. May as well sell it cheap than not sell it at all. So there will often be areas with no Skinny wireless, but yes to Spark wireless.




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  #1951301 4-Feb-2018 09:42
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coffeebaron: 
As for Skinny pricing; think of this as being simular to cheap grab a seat deals for flying. I.E. Spark "dump" a certain amount of spare capacity. May as well sell it cheap than not sell it at all. So there will often be areas with no Skinny wireless, but yes to Spark wireless.

 

This certain appears to be the case at my place here in suburban Wellington. Spark indicates coverage available at my address, but Skinny does not. 


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  #1958563 15-Feb-2018 12:09
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Current Skinny Wireless user here and I'm just about to move house 2.5 km away as the crow flies. Skinny informs me that I can't get wireless at my new address due to 'lack of capacity' and has offered to 'upgrade' me to one of their fixed broadband plans.

 

Orcon here I come :)


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  #1958564 15-Feb-2018 12:10
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Could you just take your modem to the new location and see if it notices the move? How big are cell site zones?

 

 


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  #1958573 15-Feb-2018 12:22
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kryptonjohn:

 

Could you just take your modem to the new location and see if it notices the move?

 

Thought about that but apparently they can tell and cut you off.

 

How big are cell site zones?

 

No idea, but my Wife's Skinny mobile picks up 4G from the new address...


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  #1958583 15-Feb-2018 12:37
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I'm thinking that if it's still in the same cell they won't know you have moved?


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  #1958584 15-Feb-2018 12:39
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kryptonjohn:

 

I'm thinking that if it's still in the same cell they won't know you have moved?

 

 

I presume different cell hence the 'no service' response. I'll try it though and let everyone know what happens ;)


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  #1958611 15-Feb-2018 14:05
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kryptonjohn:

 

Could you just take your modem to the new location and see if it notices the move? How big are cell site zones?

 

 

 

 

move of locations are not simply limited to detecting different cell towers.





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  #1958612 15-Feb-2018 14:06
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exador:

 

No idea, but my Wife's Skinny mobile picks up 4G from the new address...

 

 

More likely the sector your moving to already has high load.





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