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#2326167 27-Sep-2019 20:06

Well, I finally got my new 'VDSL' connection working, via the newly delivered HG659b.

But where's the extra speed I was promised? Download is just the same 2.4MB\sec as it's been for the past several years on ADSL.

Why did I bother switching over?

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#2326170 27-Sep-2019 20:15

a VDSL upgrade isnt a promised upgrade.

in saying that, sounds profile limited. checking..

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#2326174 27-Sep-2019 20:30

Right,

Your speed has gone up by 4mbit. It will go through a bit of a training period from here and probably gain a bit of speed - looks like margins are a little high for your line right now.

Something to remember is your on a rather long copper line, so it's never magically going to become amazing.

Your line is Insanely clean. For it's distance you actually had quite an impressive ADSL2+ sync there.. i highly suspect you already have a Splitter installed...

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#2326179 27-Sep-2019 20:47

"Your speed has gone up by 4mbit". So that's about .5 MB\sec, right? So I should see nearly 3MB\sec?

Splitter? I have the usual phone\adsl filter gizmo.

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#2326193 27-Sep-2019 21:08

Probably see about an extra 250-300KB/s... the fact that your reading this in MB/s leads me to suspect your basing it on probably not the most accurate of tests.

Put simply, Yes it increased.

You have the fastest connection in the street, by a fair few mbit. could be worse...

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#2326284 28-Sep-2019 10:37

Thanks. MB\sec vs Mb\sec? Easier to think in megabytes than megabits,which need dividing by 8 to get a meaningful figure.

And yes, the speed has gone up. It used to peak at about 2.4 MB\s - right now, it's occasionally hitting 2.6 MB\s.

Like, we're talking relativity here. Regardless of what the real speed might be (my indicator is Internet Download Manager), it's now quicker than it was 😜

BTW, when you say 'splitter', what are you referring to? Do you mean the ADSL filter? I just pulled the phone wire out of the old TG582n and stuck it in the HG659b. That's right, isn't it?

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#2326293 28-Sep-2019 11:08

Master splitter/filter is installed at ETP (external termination point). Ideally then run a length of cat6 from ETP to modem.

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#2326295 28-Sep-2019 11:20

geekIT:
BTW, when you say 'splitter', what are you referring to? Do you mean the ADSL filter? I just pulled the phone wire out of the old TG582n and stuck it in the HG659b. That's right, isn't it?

Around 2011 the spec of the splitter was lifted to cover ADSL and VDSL frequencies.

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#2326297 28-Sep-2019 11:38

geekIT:

BTW, when you say 'splitter', what are you referring to? Do you mean the ADSL filter? I just pulled the phone wire out of the old TG582n and stuck it in the HG659b. That's right, isn't it?

So what i'm referring to is a physical bit of hardware installed in your ETP (the white box on the side of the house) which would provide you with a dedicated "DSL" Jackpoint.

If you dont have one of these, for your line honestly i'd say that's totally fine. your almost more likely to have issues from a bad join than improvements from a Splitter there.. (it's a seriously clean looking line)

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#2326305 28-Sep-2019 12:09

OK, the ETP is the exterior box, I get it.

Re the good quality of my line, that's very odd.

From the road, the line enters the house (single story, 600mm above ground) on the west side and feeds a single phone jack which we never use.

The line exits again, then runs from the ETP, stapled to the weatherboards, 5m south back towards the road, 9m across the front of the house, then 6m up the east side of the house where it enters our 'office' and terminates in a phone jack about 1m from the outside wall. The modem is connected here.

In other words, the distance from the main wall socket to the ETP is around 8m but the length of the line is nearer 21m because it travels around the house instead of under it.

All this because some twat of a previous owner covered the 600mm-high base with chicken wire and plastered over it, so there's now no access to the underhouse area. Sheesh.

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#2326308 28-Sep-2019 12:40

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All this because some twat of a previous owner covered the 600mm-high base with chicken wire and plastered over it, so there's now no access to the underhouse area. Sheesh.

That is just as likely to be original build. If you have any built in cupboards or wardrobes you might find that in one of them 3 or 4 floor boards have been cut between joists to make a trapdoor.

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#2326311 28-Sep-2019 13:02

No, it was just a regular 4x1 slatted base until Unsung Genius decided to mouse-proof the building. Hopefully the current plumbing connections will last until I move on, because there's no way to get to those without cutting ginormous holes in the floor. Westie engineering, southern style 😝

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#2326312 28-Sep-2019 13:13

So just confirming the layout of your phone line, from the ETP it goes to a phone socket,then via the previously described route to your office, at any point does it tee off to other outlets, or the alarm panel, or anything, I mean anything.

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#2326314 28-Sep-2019 13:18

You can do it the same way a dog gets under a fence. Dig a hole beside and under the wall avoiding the piles. Lie in hole, shuffle sideways and you are under the house. The degree of difficulty reduces for every kilo under 80kg 😊

The perimeter isn't structural so you won't be undermining anything.

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#2326320 28-Sep-2019 14:34

cyril7: So just confirming the layout of your phone line, from the ETP it goes to a phone socket,then via the previously described route to your office, at any point does it tee off to other outlets, or the alarm panel, or anything, I mean anything.

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Yes. Viewed from the outside, the ETP is mounted on the base, approx 600mm off the ground and 5m from the front of the house. Directly inside from the ETP is a regular phone socket. Then, from the ETP, the cable runs around the house for 20m and inside for 1m. The cable appears to be unbroken for all of the 21m. From the way it's stapled to the weatherboards - regular intervals, tight 90 bends etc, I'd say it was a Telecom job.

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