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Linux:
Has any user actually attached to the 5G network in Auckland? Excluding Spark staff
Ill check when i drive over the bridge in the morning
I can add some test results from both Spark and Vodafone 5G networks for those curious. And I’ll try and explain some of my observations (I’m not an expert, just a mobile network geek). I was using a Samsung S20+ 5G running the latest OXM / TNZ firmware (generic Spark firmware) throughout the tests.
Spark seems to be using LTE B1 (2100mhz) as the anchor for their 5G NR78 (3500mhz) network. I had issues connecting to their 5G network as the phone would prefer to use 5CA of LTE across bands B3-B7-B28-B40-B40. I had to manually lock the phone to B1 and NR78 to get 5G to function. The resulting speeds when looking right at the towers were between 300 and 640Mbps. This was using 15mhz of LTE B1 and 60mhz of 5G NR78. I think there is a software issue on the network or my phone, because ideally, I should be getting at least 4CA of LTE in addition to the 5G bands. In fact I couldn’t get any CA combos using LTE B1 on Spark.
Vodafone seems to be going all out with their LTE network in order to speed up their 5G network. Most Vodafone 5G sites run LTE combos of B7-B28-B3-B1 with only 20mhz of 5G NR78 added on top. Vodafone 5G speeds would be between 100 and 550mbps, depending on how heavily loaded their LTE network was.
Some interesting notes here is that Spark has deployed 3x as much 5G spectrum compared to Vodafone (60mhz vs 20mhz). If Spark improves their LTE CA combos to allow B1 (like Vodafone does) or if Vodafone deploys more 5G spectrum, I think we should start seeing near 1Gbps speeds on both networks, in ideal conditions.
@techocrazy what app are you using to monitor the bands you are using? and how are you locking the phone to a particular band?
Good questions @Jase2985
For 2G, 3G, 4G or 5G band monitoring I use Samsung’s built in hidden network monitor. You can get to it by entering *#0011# on your phone dialer (you don’t need to actually call the number, it should start the app once you finish typing out the code).
For band locking, I use another hidden app from Samsung. It is a sub activity of the call settings app. You can get to by manually starting the activity if you have an app that lets you do so. I’ve used Nova Launcher in the past, as it would let me create a shortcut to the band selector from my home screen. There is also an app on the Play Store called Samsung Band Selection, but all that does is launch the same activity on your behalf. I’ve added a couple of screen shots so you can see the name of the band selector app and what it looks like when its running. You can lock to one or any combination of 2G, 3G, 4G or 5G bands.
I should add that the network monitor only works on Samsung phones, and the band selector only seems to work on Samsung phones running Android 10 (I think... not 100% sure)
Been one of those busy weeks! DM me your number and I can check why 5G isn't staying on - it should. Also checking that it was a Spark purchased 5G phone (yes it matters for certain devices) ?
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gajan:
Been one of those busy weeks! DM me your number and I can check why 5G isn't staying on - it should. Also checking that it was a Spark purchased 5G phone (yes it matters for certain devices) ?
Jase2985:@gajan:Also checking that it was a Spark purchased 5G phone (yes it matters for certain devices) ?
could you explain why? and when we can expect non spark purchased phones to get 5G
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It's basically the same issue you have with anything that's imported. Carriers don't support anything but the top 2-3 device brands these days.
Your really pushing it to buy something that's not from those, and has all the settings correctly configured.
case in point, my first party (bought directly straight from spark) Hauwei Mate 20 pro should atleast be able to do 4CA with a few 4x4 in there.
however, It's only allowed 2CA and mostly 2x2 on sparks network - Shane pls fix ;)
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bitserf: Just walked all around the CBD with Apple iPhone 12 Pro with 5G on.
Not one signal.
I even sat on the bench in Wynyard Quarter from their 5G “launch” article.
Maybe I need to lie under the bench?
A bit.... underwhelming.
On Spark pay monthly plan (59.99 open term).
@bitserf are you 100% sure 5G is provisioned / plan has access to the 5G network?
Linux:
bitserf: Just walked all around the CBD with Apple iPhone 12 Pro with 5G on.
Not one signal.
I even sat on the bench in Wynyard Quarter from their 5G “launch” article.
Maybe I need to lie under the bench?
A bit.... underwhelming.
On Spark pay monthly plan (59.99 open term).
@bitserf are you 100% sure 5G is provisioned / plan has access to the 5G network?
The very first question the Spark person in the store asked me when I popped in 5 minutes ago.
Now working...thanks :)
i seem to recall spark saying they hadnt approved trhe iphone 12 for use yet, might have changed.
Its more of a soft launch for spark as they havent made it avalible to all 5g devices at this point in time.
Jase2985:
i seem to recall spark saying they hadnt approved trhe iphone 12 for use yet, might have changed.
Its more of a soft launch for spark as they havent made it avalible to all 5g devices at this point in time.
The iPhone 12 + 5G - works fine with Spark subscribers, we're working through the process for Skinny. I hope that helps clarify things.
It's also available to all 5G approved devices that we've tested (as device manufacturers also need to enable it on their device for our network).
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