freitasm:

 

Really curious about how much you paid for that phone.

 

Was it a lot cheaper than just buying this one that just works? 

 

Think they need a rider to negate the outdated selling feature "Will operate during power outages" as won't work if plugged into an ONT and the power goes out ;-)

Groucho:

 

freitasm:

 

Really curious about how much you paid for that phone.

 

Was it a lot cheaper than just buying this one that just works? 

 

 

Think they need a rider to negate the outdated selling feature "Will operate during power outages" as won't work if plugged into an ONT and the power goes out ;-)

 

It will - because of the UPS of the core home network. ;-)

My historic dial phone is a solid one from 1948, still works today by VoIP (with a homebrew DTMF converter and ATA) and has a REAL double ring bell which awakes Zombies by night). You can even ‚swipe’ the rotary dial disc … :-D

Tinkerisk:

 

Groucho:

 

Think they need a rider to negate the outdated selling feature "Will operate during power outages" as won't work if plugged into an ONT and the power goes out ;-)

 

 

It will - because of the UPS of the core home network. ;-)

 

My historic dial phone is a solid one from 1948, still works today by VoIP (with a homebrew DTMF converter and ATA) and has a REAL double ring bell which awakes Zombies by night). You can even ‚swipe’ the rotary dial disc … :-D

 

When my parents upgraded to fibre I plugged in a corded phone with mechanical ringer they had laying around then rang it.  I asked my Dad if he had figured out how it was getting the power for the ringer through a tube of light from the Exchange hahaha!

freitasm: @Tinkerisk the problem is when this phone is connected to the port of a ONT or router - those devices won't work during a power outage unlike phones connected directly to the POTS.

I wouldn’t even assume this would work but I just demonstrated how one can make it work as long as „there is light at the end of the fibre tunnel.“ You‘ll need an UPS to bridge power outages (for the whole pack of the ONT, router, switch - all identified as the minimum ‚core network system of your home’) for sure. More or less the same what has been in former PBX distribution systems of the telcos in the past time - but now it‘s the customer‘s responsibility (and costs).

Last week there was an one hour power outage during morning rush hour (very seldom here, must have been an damaged cable due to construction work) and people had to phone their bosses via smartphones because they could not manage to leave the house with their cars due to the omitted operation of the garage door openers … but their failure to plan was not my emergency*. 😉

USV 1 supplied my minimum core network for the whole time and USV 2 had to do it for 15 minutes before a safe server shutdown sequence.

(* I helped them out one by one with my portable emergency generator just to open the garage doors).

Tinkerisk:

 

Last week there was an one hour power outage during morning rush hour (very seldom here, must have been an damaged cable due to construction work) and people had to phone their bosses via smartphones because they could not manage to leave the house with their cars due to the omitted operation of the garage door openers … but their failure to plan was not my emergency*. 😉

 

USV 1 supplied my minimum core network for the whole time and USV 2 had to do it for 15 minutes before a safe server shutdown sequence.

 

 

 

(* I helped them out one by one with my portable emergency generator just to open the garage doors).

 

?? I have never yet seen a garage door that cannot be manually opened during a power outage - maybe they just need a bit of training.

decibel:

 

?? I have never yet seen a garage door that cannot be manually opened during a power outage - maybe they just need a bit of training.

 

Have a look … how would YOU handle this manually?

I suspect that image above is a graphic, not a real photo, along with no release handle to manually operate the door there is plenty of missing features.

I have NEVER in NZ seen a garage door opener without a manual overide and further, any manufacture who produced one with no manual overide would find few buyers for his lame product.

Cyril

Tinkerisk:

decibel:

?? I have never yet seen a garage door that cannot be manually opened during a power outage - maybe they just need a bit of training.

 

Have a look … how would YOU handle this manually?

 

&nbfsp;

Tinkerisk:

 

 

 

Have a look … how would YOU handle this manually?

 

 

Considering its a poor render, I would assume its in a game engine and get the RPG and shoot a way thru.

Yes it‘s a render guys but that‘s not the point. Sorry when I failed to make photos for evidence to explain the principle of the three garage doors from the same manufacturer in the neighborhood. I wasn‘t the guy who projected, sold or bought it. I was just the one, who brought the electrical power to open it. There is a battery option in the box overhead but for any reason (I assume lack of mainentenance, „cause the door was just expensive enough“ *g*) it didn‘t work … at -5* … in winter … in GER … but for sure you can debate, why I supported to open such a lame installation I would never had ordered nor installed.

So I sourced in 230V AC right behind the relevant shutted down circuit breaker and opened the door for the guys down the street neighborhood struggeling even for WFH with power outage … and yes, before you ask, I‘m allowed to do this as a qualified person with the relevant degree in some kind of electrical things *g*.

BTW the heaters below the iced area in front of the garage didn‘t work either, but … that‘s another story. 😀

So, you are saying electric garage doors in Germany don't have any way to disconnect the door from the motor so they can be manually opened?

Every door I have seen has some way to disconnect and manually open. Granted some can be very heavy to pull open but it can be done.

see https://youtu.be/jnnEAlJ3xxY?t=68 as an example.

On the other hand, if you have a small, easily portable generator, then why not. Probably easier. 

djtOtago:

 

So, you are saying electric garage doors in Germany don't have any way to disconnect the door from the motor so they can be manually opened?

 

Every door I have seen has some way to disconnect and manually open. Granted some can be very heavy to pull open but it can be done.

 

see https://youtu.be/jnnEAlJ3xxY?t=68 as an example.

 

On the other hand, if you have a small, easily portable generator, then why not. Probably easier. 

 

I don't know why the surprise. Installed a door opener to a shed in in-law's place. Yes, there's a cord you can pull to disable it but the cord is from inside. If there's a power cut then there's no way to pull the roller door up since you can't disable it from outside and no other access to the shed. 

djtOtago:

 

On the other hand, if you have a small, easily portable generator, then why not. Probably easier. 

 

You got it.