Telecom faces $400m switch

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#47544 4-Oct-2006 16:09

News flash, Telecom have already made the decision to run with Wimax and CDMA EVDO rev A,B,C for future etc, thats old news, Sprint have as well. They have joined and formed the wimax advisory group who are formulating roaming and standards for wimax 4g. Woosh and TNZ and one Aussie co are key players in this group. they are looking at a world wide target of a billion users, heres a couple of articles

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,20435269%5E15350%5E%5Enbv%5E15306-15320,00.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/29/oz_wimax_roaming_alliance/

By the way circuit switched is a dying technology, Voip or ip calling is where it's going to be and TNZ are thinking towards that angle for the future of voice calling.

the herald a freakin hopeless!!!!

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#47560 4-Oct-2006 19:08

Well I wouldnt go citing The Reg as a paragon of reliability either ;)

It limits its membership to companies that own licenses and operate WiMAX or pre-WiMAX services, contrasting with a previous, defunct attempt at creating a roaming group - the WiMAX Global Roaming Alliance (WGRA) - which was largely based around license exempt WISPs.

Telecom have WiMAX or pre WiMAX gear in full scale commercial deployment? AFAIK only Wired Country in NZ can claim that with other operators still in limited commercial trials or not even at that stage yet.

The WiSOA's founder members contain four from Australasia - Unwired Australia and Austar Australia (part of the US-based Liberty Group of John Malone); Telecom New Zealand and Woosh Telecom - plus WiMAX Telecom of Austria, Enertel from the Netherlands, Network Plus Mauritius, UK Broadband and Irish Broadband.

All these were early adopters of broadband wireless networks, and many are now migrating these to fully standardised WiMAX, which will enable relatively straightforward roaming, technically speaking at least.

Uh huh.

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#47561 4-Oct-2006 19:15

Fraktul, there are lots of others in the game... google it...

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#47563 4-Oct-2006 19:18

Really, in full commercial deployment not just in trial, pre trial or 'yeah we will release a bs media statement' mode?

Do tell!

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#47565 4-Oct-2006 19:45

well I have it at my house...

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#47566 4-Oct-2006 19:48

And what is "it"? If you are going to make statements please back them up.

Felix

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#47568 4-Oct-2006 19:55

WiMax... thought that was obvious...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

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#47569 4-Oct-2006 19:58

also bodies, in the basement... lots of them...

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#47570 4-Oct-2006 20:00

I would have though it fairly obvious I was talking about from whom you had this, non trial, commercial WiMAX/pre WiMAX deployment.

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#47571 4-Oct-2006 20:03

Jed: AND loosing money on parallel imports.

Interesting view Jed, last time I checked Telecom subsidise their handsets, even Prepaid ones.....

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#47573 4-Oct-2006 20:59

I know someone that has seen the telecom wimax trial

The person is not that impressed with the how stable it is but when its running good its awesome!

(this was 3rd hand information)

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#47595 4-Oct-2006 22:51

Which is why they have trials.... to sort out the stability issues....

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#47610 5-Oct-2006 08:38

Fraktul: Well I wouldnt go citing The Reg as a paragon of reliability either ;)

Telecom have WiMAX or pre WiMAX gear in full scale commercial deployment? AFAIK only Wired Country in NZ can claim that with other operators still in limited commercial trials or not even at that stage yet.

WC's 3.5GHz service doesn't use the WiMAX standard. The gear is supposedly upgradeable to it though. I've tried the Natcom 5.8GHz service (very good, but they need licensed spectrum to make it fly) and Callplus has WiMAX-based services running up north, using Siemens/Alvarion equipment.

I'm sure Telecom's looking into both fixed and mobile WiMAX as well because it'll be cheap thanks to Intel and others backing it. Saw a working 802.16e base station prototype in San Franciso, with a data card that looked pretty much production ready. There's also a mobile WiMAX stretch along a railway line for trialling the service while you commute.

The problem in NZ is that that it's hard to get the 30MHz bands needed in the lower frequency ranges (2.3-3.8GHz). The spectrum is configured in narrow bands and occupied by various organisations that have sat on the licenses for a decade and a half without doing anything with them. The MED needs to sort that one out before WiMAX becomes a reality.

Intel's also looking at providing 3G-WiMAX integration at the moment, and have working prototypes already. That would be what Telecom is looking for, rather than moving to a GSM based network.

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#47638 5-Oct-2006 12:40

juha:
Fraktul: Well I wouldnt go citing The Reg as a paragon of reliability either ;)

Telecom have WiMAX or pre WiMAX gear in full scale commercial deployment? AFAIK only Wired Country in NZ can claim that with other operators still in limited commercial trials or not even at that stage yet.

WC's 3.5GHz service doesn't use the WiMAX standard. The gear is supposedly upgradeable to it though. I've tried the Natcom 5.8GHz service (very good, but they need licensed spectrum to make it fly) and Callplus has WiMAX-based services running up north, using Siemens/Alvarion equipment.

I'm sure Telecom's looking into both fixed and mobile WiMAX as well because it'll be cheap thanks to Intel and others backing it. Saw a working 802.16e base station prototype in San Franciso, with a data card that looked pretty much production ready. There's also a mobile WiMAX stretch along a railway line for trialling the service while you commute.

The problem in NZ is that that it's hard to get the 30MHz bands needed in the lower frequency ranges (2.3-3.8GHz). The spectrum is configured in narrow bands and occupied by various organisations that have sat on the licenses for a decade and a half without doing anything with them. The MED needs to sort that one out before WiMAX becomes a reality.

Intel's also looking at providing 3G-WiMAX integration at the moment, and have working prototypes already. That would be what Telecom is looking for, rather than moving to a GSM based network.

I never said it was WiMAX, it is pre-WiMAX. The spectral efficiency of the existing network is greater than WiMAX so it would in fact be a downgrade from that point of view.

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#47642 5-Oct-2006 12:59

Fraktul: I never said it was WiMAX, it is pre-WiMAX. The spectral efficiency of the existing network is greater than WiMAX so it would in fact be a downgrade from that point of view.

You did actually, but never mind. Not sure what "pre-WiMAX" is, but if it means REMEC/Accelera are using a draft 802.16-based spec, I don't think that's the case. Could be wrong though, but you say the existing network utilises spectrum more efficiently so it doesn't sound like it.

Juha

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