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#407480 22-Nov-2010 00:58

langi27: Is it just me or are residential packages with landlines included becoming less and less popular with the likes of 2degrees offering good calling rates and the convenience of being mobile, I ditched the POTS landline in favour of VOIP last year and have never looked back. The 2 local calls I made most months didn't seem to justify the expense,

I'm not saying these types of packages are pointless, I know my parents still use their landline a lot more than their mobiles, but I think the landline as we know it is dying a slow death. Why don't we see naked DSL/Cable plans with attached VOIP options, if your going to loose a customer to a different VOIP provider why don't you offer it yourself?

There will be a tipping point where Telecom (retail) has to start offering voip and naked adsl as options but currently they only lose out on the custom of a relatively smaller number of geeks so it makes no business sense for them to prematurely canibalise their existing landline / standard adsl business.

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#407500 22-Nov-2010 08:20

DO the new plans charge for excess data? Or , reduced speed?

Surely they would not autoupgrade from a plan with reduced speed to a plan that charges excess data?

Regardless of the caps.

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#407502 22-Nov-2010 08:25

Doing 140gb on AYCE.

Dont see how 60gb will help me.
Bring back another unlimited data cap plan and then we'll talk :)

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#407558 22-Nov-2010 10:16

I've not seen anyone from Telecom say that there will be any auto-upgrades or migrations, it was just a question from a user?

Much more likely that this is a new stand-alone product that people can change to if they want to, because it's different to the other bundles (no free national calling etc.).

There was a comment on the GP Forums thread that you can choose Overage or Throttle on the plan.

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#407735 22-Nov-2010 15:21

I was talking with a guy from Gen-i when we were out for a business dinner (client and customer thing) and the conversation we had around naked DSL for Telecom finished at "Why would Telecom create naked DSL for themselves and cut off a $50 revenue stream per house per month"

Now if you were in business, would you do that? To those that say yes, your fail card is in the mail.

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#407935 22-Nov-2010 23:40

drquack32: I was talking with a guy from Gen-i when we were out for a business dinner (client and customer thing) and the conversation we had around naked DSL for Telecom finished at "Why would Telecom create naked DSL for themselves and cut off a $50 revenue stream per house per month"

Now if you were in business, would you do that? To those that say yes, your fail card is in the mail.

Compare the cost of naked adsl vs landline + standard adsl from a few ISP's, it's more like $10 than $50 because.....

Landline + Standard adsl:
You are paying for line rental, broadband services, landline/phone sevices

Naked adsl:
You are paying for line rental and broadband services (no landline/phone service)

While it's good sense to not canibalise your existing/legacy business prematurely, if you wait too long your competitors will do it for you.

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#407940 22-Nov-2010 23:58

I resent paying more for overage than the included data - $2 a gig? come on, who are you kidding? that would make another 80 gigs cost more than the first 80 including the monthly fee and the totally worthless analog landline. What should happen is that as you use more, it gets CHEAPER, not more expensive.

Also telecom still charge like crazy for services that should IMO not cost, like caller ID, messaging, call waiting etc. Those are all FREE on 2talk. to just get a usable landline with caller ID with telecom costs so much.

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#408144 23-Nov-2010 13:29

richms: What should happen is that as you use more, it gets CHEAPER, not more expensive.

Don't be silly, the contention rates are high enough already, they really don't want you using MORE, so they make more data loads more expensive..

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#408156 23-Nov-2010 13:52

Those plans look OK. We probably make about 2-3 national calls per month, so changing from Total Home to Total Home Broadband is probably a goer.

My question is, is every national call charged $2.50? or does it work up to that if you are on for 2 hours? Fail if it is $2.50 per call. Win if it isn't (I can never use the phone for an hour, let alone 2).

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#408334 23-Nov-2010 15:47

trig42: Those plans look OK. We probably make about 2-3 national calls per month, so changing from Total Home to Total Home Broadband is probably a goer.

My question is, is every national call charged $2.50? or does it work up to that if you are on for 2 hours? Fail if it is $2.50 per call. Win if it isn't (I can never use the phone for an hour, let alone 2).

it is your 'win' scenario, the call cost builds up to $2.50 then stops until you hit 2 hours then it carries on charging.

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#408471 23-Nov-2010 18:59

The CSR that called our place was surprised that we already knew all about the new plans heh.

Hello 80GB plan.

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#408473 23-Nov-2010 19:00

Are they doubling the 80 gigs for the first few months like they were on the other plans?

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#408474 23-Nov-2010 19:04

Forgot to ask about double data, but I doubt you'd be able to get double data with the new plans if you are an existing customer like us.

I did remember to ask about contract term, it's open term does not start a new 12mth term.

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#408476 23-Nov-2010 19:29

I welcome a higher data cap, and we'll probably change over to the new plans if the fine print looks OK, but it's worth looking across the ditch and noticing that you can get a terabyte of data there for only a very few more bucks a month: http://www.iinet.net.au/broadband/plans.html - yes I know you pay for local calls and so on, but even if you take the next price point down it's still 400 GB.

Really, these are a long way from being genuinely competitive.

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