BREAKING NEWS: Telstra decommissions CDMA already

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#64129 18-Mar-2007 07:08

Jeffthechef:
freitasm: Laughable. When I had the Geekzone moderators here in Wellington for a meetup I had the opportunity to show them how we were under a Vodafone mini cell site and still my mobile would show no signal and simply wouldn connect any call - both incoming or outgoing.

I really mean under: we were less than three meters from the mini cell site, on Lambton Quay.

Do you know if it was even on?

May have been off for servicing etc.

Just a thought.

Hey, it's Lambtron Quay, Wellington CBD, two blocks from the Vodafone offices and the busiest commercial street in Wellington. Just from where we were standing there are four Vodafone store in the same block (one being the Vodafone's own flagship store).

Even if that specific mini site was off one would expect coverage.

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#64135 18-Mar-2007 08:12

I know this is OT but I had to mention it after reading that article

Edwards, a shareholder in Econet's New Zealand venture, is understood to have been asked to step aside to make way for a new chief executive with operational experience.

how interesting is that, poor tex. you have to feel for the guy :P

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#64136 18-Mar-2007 08:38

johnr: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10429235

This article makes it sound like video calling services are not here already!!

Huawei's mobile platform would allow services like video telephone to be delivered in New Zealand. Photo / Peter Griffin

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They also refer to the Auckland CBD trial network as though it happened

"Econet's acting chief executive, Tex Edwards, refused to comment on the outcome of the Auckland Huawei cell site trial."

I guess you can't comment on something that still hasn't happened.

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#64139 18-Mar-2007 08:51

I wonder if the 10 sites were built,

think of the coverage foot print from 10 UMTS 2100mhz sites in the CBD

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#64143 18-Mar-2007 09:47

richms: If you care about hick towns in the middle of nowhere which you have to go outside before you get signal, then yeah, telecom are better, but if your talking about normal urban coverage then vodafone blows telecom out of the water. Go where the people are is a smart thing to do, whereas telecom seem to want to install coverage where they arn't. Perhaps that will change if they go wcdma on 850 like telstra.

Yep , i'm not worried about the latte set, just us good old boy hicks.

and the latte set on their hols

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#64146 18-Mar-2007 09:54

richms: Go where the people are is a smart thing to do, whereas telecom seem to want to install coverage where they arn't. Perhaps that will change if they go wcdma on 850 like telstra.

Care to provide proof that this is the case (rather than generalisations on a single blackspot which is not indicative of the nation wide network)? Myself and others have noted that the coverage to be excellent. The frequency that they use for cdma blows 2100 out of the water which is why vfnz will eventually switch to a 900 mhz network for their 3G/hspda.

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#64243 19-Mar-2007 05:18

Sorry for the subject change, but I just couldn't help myself.

Looks like the Herald isn't the only paper that knows of Telstra's decommissioned CDMA network before anyone else:

From the Dominion Post:

Telecom has been left as the sole provider of the CDMA cellular technology in Australia and New Zealand, meaning its customers travelling to Australia are without adequate roaming options.

Sound familiar? :P

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#64257 19-Mar-2007 10:02

willnz: Sorry for the subject change, but I just couldn't help myself.

Looks like the Herald isn't the only paper that knows of Telstra's decommissioned CDMA network before anyone else:

From the Dominion Post:

Telecom has been left as the sole provider of the CDMA cellular technology in Australia and New Zealand, meaning its customers travelling to Australia are without adequate roaming options.

Sound familiar? :P

From here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/3997299a13.html

The articles are available on the TVNZ site also.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/497100/1022984

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#64261 19-Mar-2007 10:27

[OT]Seeing that 025 is going to be switched off on 31st March 2007. LET's hypothetically say that Telecom NZ has to follow the suite to switch to WCDMA 850 with Telstra Australia to provide the global roaming to Australia and 80% of the world, will we see the new "Countdown" to 027's decomission?[/OT]

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#64262 19-Mar-2007 10:37

chiefie: [OT]Seeing that 025 is going to be switched off on 31st March 2007. LET's hypothetically say that Telecom NZ has to follow the suite to switch to WCDMA 850 with Telstra Australia to provide the global roaming to Australia and 80% of the world, will we see the new "Countdown" to 027's decomission?[/OT]

They won't decommision the 027 prefix/number range - which is the only thing Joe Bloggs cares about. Your average person doesn't give a sh*t if it's CDMA, GSM, WCDMA, or a cup and string, so long as it works for what they want it for. Anyway, there aren't anymore 02X prefixes left.

020 is Teamtalk / Orcon
021 is Vodafone
022 is reserved/protected
023 is TelstraClear
024 is being partially registered by Woosh, and Telecom
025 is Telecom
026 is Telecom + TeamTalk
027 is Telecom + WxC
028 is Compass / Econet
029 is TelstraClear

I guess they could use 024, but, why? The only reason they moved from 025 to 027 is because they needed to have the two networks up to allow people to migrate properly.

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#64265 19-Mar-2007 11:00

Perhaps reuse 025?

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#64266 19-Mar-2007 11:01

Any reason why they can't keep 027?

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#64268 19-Mar-2007 11:12

Well, with portability the whole idea of reserved prefixes is moot

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#64269 19-Mar-2007 11:16

Not really, there is still going to have to be a 'default' prefix if you will for each provider if a customer is buying a new number.

Telecom can't set up a new 021 number or can they?

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#64273 19-Mar-2007 11:28

willnz: They won't decommision the 027 prefix/number range- which is the only thing Joe Bloggs cares about. Your average person doesn't give a sh*t if it's CDMA, GSM, WCDMA, or a cup and string, so long as it works for what they want it for.

Yes, but if the CDMA network were wound down, then CDMA-only handsets will become useless and that could cause a consumer backlash. Shifting all CDMA users over to a new UMTS network would require a carefully managed five year migration, much like the TDMA-CDMA transition.

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