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#216335 20-May-2009 14:28

So Vodafone is 89c to any number, now Telecom is too. Vodafone has $2 for 2 hours on net, Telecom has ???

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#216337 20-May-2009 14:35

How come telecom sells that nokia 85 for 1500?? I ha d a look at phonesdirect website and it cost only like $850. So what's wrong with telecom pricing? Maybe they need to change it soon... Other phones pricing are reasonable though. I have just called a phone dealer and he told me that it's diffcult to get a WM phone for telecom. Xperia x1a maybe, but hard to get. So now I don't have many choices. Vodafone still enjoy the widest compatibility of phones that can work on its network by a very wide margin. And because telecom is a 3G only 850mhz network, that alone minimized the numbers of available handsets.

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#216340 20-May-2009 14:39

It is rapidly becoming apparent that the XT Network isn't going to revolutionise pricing like we have all been expecting - it is not much more than Telecom bringing it's network technology up to date. And even then, they are going overboard, 21Mbps "on the go" at today's data rates (even if Telecom magically halve Vodafone's) is OTT, though backhaul will likely reduce the real time speed significantly anyway.

Disappointing really, though it isn't over yet, I may have to eat my words next Friday . . .

(Come on 2degrees you are our only hope, unless Vodafone has put some decent plans together in anticipation of something better from Telecom)

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#216342 20-May-2009 14:44

When did Telecom ever indicate that pricing on XT would be lower than the status quo?

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#216343 20-May-2009 14:47

steveonz: You think that is crazy? Look at this...

Bring on NZ Comms... sorry 2Degrees!

{MOD EDIT : SP : Credit where credit is due, this slide is from this NBR article}

The only thing 'crazy' about that is that it barely gives any detail. I'm not sure how you can draw any conclusions about the overall XT pricing from that table. apart from about the few plans with numbers on them that look fairly competitive IMO.

e.g. a postpaid plan that cost $49, gives you 100 minutes to any net any time, then charges 49c/min to any net after those 100 minutes.

IF my quick research is right, compare that to the current telecom equivalent, Anytime Go 100, which costs a whacking $78.75/month, that is a saving of nearly $30 on XT, and minutes are priced about the same. Pretty good I think.

The closest voda equivalent I can find is Talker 120, which is $60 ($10 more than the XT plan, although you get 20 more minutes) but charges addittional minutes at $0.69 - (50% more thant the XT price!)

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#216345 20-May-2009 14:51

well lets hope we are all surprised and they come out with some great plans but at the moment im definatley not guna hold my breath

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#216346 20-May-2009 14:52

steve98: When did Telecom ever indicate that pricing on XT would be lower than the status quo?

I don't have a specific example but I think it is fair to say that the expectation of a good number of people is that the arrival of the XT Network would bring a compelling reason to change.

While the technology will arguably be better, the investment in terms of handset purchase, contract term commitment, etc is looking less and less worth it for what is looking to be a similar service at a similar price but paying your bill to someone else.

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#216347 20-May-2009 14:54

ZALMAN: well lets hope we are all surprised and they come out with some great plans but at the moment im definatley not guna hold my breath

Holding your breath is not advised either way :-)

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#216349 20-May-2009 14:58

Can anyone identify the origins or specifications of the Telecom R6 and would you reccomend it for a student with little needs other than txt and calls and little money.

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#216350 20-May-2009 15:05

If all you want to do is txt and call that phone would be fine as it is cheap
Ps most phones on the market these days will call and txt well you would hope anyway

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#216353 20-May-2009 15:14

Has anyone heard rumors that $10 txt will be a thing of the past or will it be moving to the new network?

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#216357 20-May-2009 15:23

$10 txt will still be available on the xt network.

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#216358 20-May-2009 15:25

I know that. I think ill wait until i see the prepaid data pricing before i switch. I was more interested in the specs as i cant find anything about it on the net.

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#216359 20-May-2009 15:28

scottjpalmer:
steve98: When did Telecom ever indicate that pricing on XT would be lower than the status quo?

I don't have a specific example but I think it is fair to say that the expectation of a good number of people is that the arrival of the XT Network would bring a compelling reason to change.

While the technology will arguably be better, the investment in terms of handset purchase, contract term commitment, etc is looking less and less worth it for what is looking to be a similar service at a similar price but paying your bill to someone else.

Certainly the marketing isn't trying to convey a 'value' message. The story there is all about speed and power with lots of images of very expensive tech like Ferraris, Macbooks and the like. I don't see any message about it being inexpensive.

That being the case, some of the handsets are surprisingly well priced and the plan indicated on that slide of $49 / 100 anytime, any-net mins / 49c per min overage looks better than Telecom's current 100 anytime plan. I do wonder what they have up their sleeves for people currently on off-peak plans like the one that is $30 per mth for 200 offpeak minutes -- the pricing indicated here does not appear to be in their favour.

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#216360 20-May-2009 15:29

thefatmould: Can anyone identify the origins or specifications of the Telecom R6 and would you reccomend it for a student with little needs other than txt and calls and little money.

The handsets are manufactured by ZTE. Here is the Australian ZTE site: ZTE

The Telecom R6 is the same as the Telstra T6

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