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unbornchikken
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  #410708 29-Nov-2010 14:40
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I always thought it was all a balancing act.

And thats goes for all providers, the cost of services on the network has to be viable to maintain the maintenance and upgrade of the existing network and new networks for new and existing customers.
the more people on line and the more they use the more capacity you need, which means more equipment and more people to maintain that equipment. And if the prices just keep going down the network builders couldnt keep up

NZ just doesnt have the population density to pay for it.
and tbh if that is the case, cos im not expert, i'll keep the low population density thanks
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  #410710 29-Nov-2010 14:43
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unbornchikken: I always thought it was all a balancing act.

And thats goes for all providers, the cost of services on the network has to be viable to maintain the maintenance and upgrade of the existing network and new networks for new and existing customers.
the more people on line and the more they use the more capacity you need, which means more equipment and more people to maintain that equipment. And if the prices just keep going down the network builders couldnt keep up

NZ just doesnt have the population density to pay for it.
and tbh if that is the case, cos im not expert, i'll keep the low population density thanks
higher priced BB is a small price for paradise
just my two pence


 


As far as population density goes, just serve the main centers as 2 degrees does for their mobile data plans.

No idea how that would work with Telecom being crippled by the kiwishare nonsense, but other ISPs should be able to do it IMO.




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  #410723 29-Nov-2010 15:10
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richms:
unbornchikken: I always thought it was all a balancing act.

And thats goes for all providers, the cost of services on the network has to be viable to maintain the maintenance and upgrade of the existing network and new networks for new and existing customers.
the more people on line and the more they use the more capacity you need, which means more equipment and more people to maintain that equipment. And if the prices just keep going down the network builders couldnt keep up

NZ just doesnt have the population density to pay for it.
and tbh if that is the case, cos im not expert, i'll keep the low population density thanks
higher priced BB is a small price for paradise
just my two pence


 


As far as population density goes, just serve the main centers as 2 degrees does for their mobile data plans.

No idea how that would work with Telecom being crippled by the kiwishare nonsense, but other ISPs should be able to do it IMO.


they do.  that's why you only see the denser profitable exchanges unbundled instead of the smaller ones



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  #412116 2-Dec-2010 14:53
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Looked up my usage meter today and I've been switched over to the new plan :)

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  #412136 2-Dec-2010 15:53
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What total home plan were you on? When did your current 'data month' end?

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  #412195 2-Dec-2010 18:03
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We're on the new plan now (we were on Total Home Lite + Pro).

It changed mid billing period, Telecom pro-rata the monthly cost for the plan so you only pay a partial amount for each plan for the time you were on that plan.  Pro-rata'ing usually works out in your favour slightly as your usage is reset to 0 on the new plan. 

You can see from this screen shot we have around half the billing period to use up the fresh 80GB (good times).



 
 
 

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  #412251 2-Dec-2010 20:28
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Does this also mean that the usage  during the period from the start of that billing plan under the old scheme until the switch over to this new plan is thus able to be used up to the data cap? If so, then I should be stuck in and download stuff now.

Ragnor: We're on the new plan now (we were on Total Home Lite + Pro).

It changed mid billing period, Telecom pro-rata the monthly cost for the plan so you only pay a partial amount for each plan for the time you were on that plan.  Pro-rata'ing usually works out in your favour slightly as your usage is reset to 0 on the new plan. 

You can see from this screen shot we have around half the billing period to use up the fresh 80GB (good times).



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  #412284 2-Dec-2010 22:16
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Is the changeover automatic? (here's hoping). I haven't heard anything...but that would be good times if so.

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  #412317 3-Dec-2010 00:27
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blah33: Does this also mean that the usage  during the period from the start of that billing plan under the old scheme until the switch over to this new plan is thus able to be used up to the data cap? If so, then I should be stuck in and download stuff now.



Yes, but you don't know the exact day you will be changed so don't go too crazy. 

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  #412319 3-Dec-2010 00:30
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quickymart: Is the changeover automatic? (here's hoping). I haven't heard anything...but that would be good times if so.


Not automatic, I don't think the existing Total Home plans are going away.. the new Total Home Broadband plans are just an alternative option for people who want less calling addons and more data for the same price.

There are probably still a lot of people who will prefer to stay on Total Home plans (as opposed to Total Home Broadband plans). 

You'll have to hope for a call from a CSR soon or just chill until the new year when they release the plans.

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  #412391 3-Dec-2010 09:57
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Just for clarity - is there a choice in the new plans to for:

1. Reduced to 64k speeds following data-cap usage.

2. continued full speed combined with overusage fees.

?

 
 
 

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  #412397 3-Dec-2010 10:09
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k1wi: Just for clarity - is there a choice in the new plans to for:

1. Reduced to 64k speeds following data-cap usage.

2. continued full speed combined with overusage fees.

?


Yes there is choice, it can be throttle or overage.

(Edited from no choice to yes)




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  #412400 3-Dec-2010 10:17
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It have been put on a new plan where I was given the option of either an overage charge or being dropped back to dial-up speed. I said that I wanted the latter. I was told that I could change between these each month if I wanted. Also that I could change to another level each month.

I was told I would be switched over to the new plan between 3 and 10 Dec.

I was switched over to the new plan over night. It is shown as follows on my usage page:
- Total Home Broadband 40GB Usage


doozy:
k1wi: Just for clarity - is there a choice in the new plans to for:

1. Reduced to 64k speeds following data-cap usage.

2. continued full speed combined with overusage fees.

?


at the moment it is an overage plan, there is not a choice for ToC

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  #412442 3-Dec-2010 11:57
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ahh apologies, I didn't realise that part had launched as well, so yes it definitely can be throttle (ToC) or overage.

blah33: It have been put on a new plan where I was given the option of either an overage charge or being dropped back to dial-up speed. I said that I wanted the latter. I was told that I could change between these each month if I wanted. Also that I could change to another level each month.

I was told I would be switched over to the new plan between 3 and 10 Dec.

I was switched over to the new plan over night. It is shown as follows on my usage page:
- Total Home Broadband 40GB Usage


doozy:
k1wi: Just for clarity - is there a choice in the new plans to for:

1. Reduced to 64k speeds following data-cap usage.

2. continued full speed combined with overusage fees.

?


at the moment it is an overage plan, there is not a choice for ToC




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  #412450 3-Dec-2010 12:10
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Ah,

I look forward to when it gets rolled out to those on Adventure etc plans.

There are quite a lot of factors/options to weigh up.

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