[TelstraClear] Telstraclear/Kordia fibre backhaul

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#69832 13-Oct-2010 19:20

After a couple of things in the media lately I have some questions about telstraclear's fibre backhaul network.

Firstly, after reading that kordia & TCL share parts of a fibre network, does anyone know much about this? (Yes i realise it is undisclosed, is there any public domain info?)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/telecoms-it-media/4213861/Cannibalise-ruling-upsets-TelstraClear

Also, after seeing their TV add showing their fibre network, a couple of things struck me to look on the NZ broadband map to follow their network. I was quite surprised to see the amount of submarine cables in their network e.g. New Plymouth to Raglan, Wanganui to Waikanae, Eastbourne to Shelly Bay, Wellington to Christchurch via Kaikoura.
Previously I knew they had fibre running along the railways and a cook strait link via transpower's HVDC line, but not this amount of submarine stuff.
Do these links actually exist? When were they installed?
I can see the obvious benefit of redundancy, but might have thought submarine cables would be rather expensive to install.

Cheers appreciate any info that might enlighten me!

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#391502 13-Oct-2010 20:02

All public info, see here:

http://www.broadbandmap.govt.nz/map/

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#391517 13-Oct-2010 20:22

These links certainly do exist.. Saturn lay cables across the harbour and from Lyall Bay to Christchurch around the time they expanded their HFC network to Christchurch.

There have been a number of people post on here lately surprised at the size of TCL's fibre network, I guess that's why they are actually trying to promote it since many people assume they don't have a lot of backhaul infrastructure.

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#391527 13-Oct-2010 20:31

Ragnor: All public info, see here:

http://www.broadbandmap.govt.nz/map/

Thanks, but the nz broadband map just gave me more questions! I was questioning if the TCL data on there was infact accurate. Also kordia fibre is not shown on there

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These links certainly do exist.. Saturn lay cables across the harbour and from Lyall Bay to Christchurch around the time they expanded their HFC network to Christchurch.

There have been a number of people post on here lately surprised at the size of TCL's fibre network, I guess that's why they are actually trying to promote it since many people assume they don't have a lot of backhaul infrastructure.

Ahh great, thats what I wanted to know. It seemed pretty ridiculous at first, but I suppose if you compare the cost with that of digging up roads and gaining easements, then a link such as that could be cheaper.

I think those adds are a little BS, they showed the interisland ferry in a channel, and the top of a snowy mountain as where they have fibre, they might have fibre nearby, but not in those exact places.

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#391535 13-Oct-2010 20:48

The map is fairly accurate for Telstraclear, if that article is correct Kordia is a just part owner of the TCL fibre network so doesn't make sense to list them seperately.

Kordia are using Vector in Auckland and FX Networks elsewhere for backhaul for their Orcon+ LLU ADSL network.

If they own a 1/3 of the Telstraclear fibre network like the article suggests they would be very eager to lit up more TCL/Kordia capacity and use it I imagine.

Quite sad to see TCL resorting to artificial scarcity as a business model but that appears to be one of their forte's.

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#392310 15-Oct-2010 16:22

I think those adds are a little BS, they showed the interisland ferry in a channel, and the top of a snowy mountain as where they have fibre, they might have fibre nearby, but not in those exact places.

To be honest, I felt the same way when watching the TV ad, and took it with a grain of salt, but it is surprisingly literal.

The fibre is under the straight where the ferry is going, the fibre is laid near that river/creek bed they paddle down, and the fibre is running down the snowy mountain. I actually asked someone involved with the TV ad, and yes the fibre is actually laid in all the locations where they decided to shoot.

As S Biddle said, the intentions are more to highlight the extent of the network, and build awareness of what TelstraClear has done. A big part of that is more directly to businesses and advertising TCL's capabilities as opposed to "Hey, if you live on this snowy mountain side in Queenstown, we'll connect your home to fibre"