DarthKermit: Just a quick question: do most older streets in Wellington still have above ground phone and power cables?
Power yes,
Most phone trunk wiring is actually underground, but the final drop to the house is overhead, (it will pop up a pole and then go overhead to the house)
My view would be:
Power - 99-100% of power is overhead
Chorus Copper - As above the vast majority is underground and then follows the power up and has a termination point to have overhead copper to the house
TelstraClear cable - 90% overhead, except where neighbourhoods complained about the ugly overhead cables and Telstra buried them.. But this is by far and above the exception rather than the rule.
Newer subdivisions (~mid 80's or so to now) everything is underground including ducting, hence why Chorus can now semi-easily pull fibre into areas such as Churton Park so they are year 1 UFB rollout areas.
Telstraclear haven't extended their cable network into newer subdivisions for the last 10 years or so. So those areas are serviced by copper.. Or if it's a recent build in the new BoF areas you can only get Fibre Internet & Phone from World XChange.
And a program to underground everything... Doubt it... Unless you've got a spare hundred billion or so..
DarthKermit: Just a quick question: do most older streets in Wellington still have above ground phone and power cables?
Power yes,
Most phone trunk wiring is actually underground, but the final drop to the house is overhead, (it will pop up a pole and then go overhead to the house)
My view would be:
Power - 99-100% of power is overhead
Chorus Copper - As above the vast majority is underground and then follows the power up and has a termination point to have overhead copper to the house
TelstraClear cable - 90% overhead, except where neighbourhoods complained about the ugly overhead cables and Telstra buried them.. But this is by far and above the exception rather than the rule.
Newer subdivisions (~mid 80's or so to now) everything is underground including ducting, hence why Chorus can now semi-easily pull fibre into areas such as Churton Park so they are year 1 UFB rollout areas.
Telstraclear haven't extended their cable network into newer subdivisions for the last 10 years or so. So those areas are serviced by copper.. Or if it's a recent build in the new BoF areas you can only get Fibre Internet & Phone from World XChange.
And a program to underground everything... Doubt it... Unless you've got a spare hundred billion or so..
Thanks for that info. Where I live (Palmy Nth), probably 95+% of streets have underground power and phone now. This was initiated back when there were still council-owned power boards, 20+? years ago. Never happen now as it's all about profit.
I remember when I worked at TCL (and Paradise beforehand), people were always complaining about Saturn's cables but never did anything to help them, ie, subscribe so they could afford to put it underground! Some group called CORA (from memory) took them to court a few times but I don't know why they bothered... I also remember hearing while working at Telstra Saturn (around 10 years ago) the cost to lay the cable overground was around $18 000 p/km; to underground it was $68 000 p/km, but I have no idea how accurate those figures were.
(I know TelstraClear has now moved forums and been locked but this one topic has been left open)
So this is still ongoing, one call I get told yer look into the "broken pole on your street" and we will go from there, then the next person says "no, we dont upgrade people".
but the pole has been demed safe by Wellington lines so I guess im halfway there.
really just after some good news;
have you every heard of anyone getting upgraded from ADSL to Cable on request?
or
know any other provides that will (it has got to that point for me, I have been as loyal as I can)
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