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#1196300 12-Dec-2014 13:56
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kiwipawl:
johnr: Just cause a number starts with 021 does not mean that number is on Vodafone


But I guess the fact that we pay Vodafone for the services does.


Maybe it's just because it is Friday and this has been a very long week, but this sentence confuses me. How is who you pay for your service relevant to the recipient's ability/inability to receive it on another network?



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  #1196317 12-Dec-2014 14:01
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His point is the recipient is on the Vodafone network because that's company being paid for that number.

I would like to see a conclusive report that the recipient is or is not on Vodafone.






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  #1196328 12-Dec-2014 14:08
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freitasm: His point is the recipient is on the Vodafone network because that's company being paid for that number.

I would like to see a conclusive report that the recipient is or is not on Vodafone.




recipient is not on the Vodafone NZ network



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  #1196331 12-Dec-2014 14:09
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I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.





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  #1196364 12-Dec-2014 15:14
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This is interesting.

So the receiver is on Vodafone network or not?

"Queue James Bond song"

Is johnr right or kiwipal is correct?


State your vote and why?


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  #1196365 12-Dec-2014 15:14
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freitasm: I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.



When I get home tonight I will physically check which network my wife's phone is on.

This really has seems gotten a bit out of control as I am not "insisting" that it is a Vodafone problem just replying to johnr comments. The fact that we pay Vodafone for our celphone service I assumed that it was on the Vodafone network.

If johnr who I assume is a Vodafone employee and has access to info that I don't re the network I guess he must be right.


If he can enlighten me to the how these things are setup and work that would be great.


Cheers Paul.


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#1196366 12-Dec-2014 15:16
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nakedmolerat: This is interesting.

So the receiver is on Vodafone network or not?

"Queue James Bond song"

Is johnr right or kiwipal is correct?


State your vote and why?



considering I am looking in the SRRI db I am sure I am correct but if anyone wants to bet against me feel free to

 
 
 

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#1196368 12-Dec-2014 15:18
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kiwipawl:
freitasm: I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.



When I get home tonight I will physically check which network my wife's phone is on.

This really has seems gotten a bit out of control as I am not "insisting" that it is a Vodafone problem just replying to johnr comments. The fact that we pay Vodafone for our celphone service I assumed that it was on the Vodafone network.

If johnr who I assume is a Vodafone employee and has access to info that I don't re the network I guess he must be right.


If he can enlighten me to the how these things are setup and work that would be great.


Cheers Paul.



Hi Paul

Please call your wife and ask who her service provider is (who she pays to use her phone)

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  #1196369 12-Dec-2014 15:20
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johnr:
kiwipawl:
freitasm: I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.



When I get home tonight I will physically check which network my wife's phone is on.

This really has seems gotten a bit out of control as I am not "insisting" that it is a Vodafone problem just replying to johnr comments. The fact that we pay Vodafone for our celphone service I assumed that it was on the Vodafone network.

If johnr who I assume is a Vodafone employee and has access to info that I don't re the network I guess he must be right.


If he can enlighten me to the how these things are setup and work that would be great.


Cheers Paul.



Hi Paul

Please call your wife and ask who her service provider is (who she pays to use her phone)


I already have and she told me Vodafone. I you want to contact her and tell she is wrong fell free to because I ain't.

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  #1196370 12-Dec-2014 15:20
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kiwipawl:
freitasm: I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.



When I get home tonight I will physically check which network my wife's phone is on.

This really has seems gotten a bit out of control as I am not "insisting" that it is a Vodafone problem just replying to johnr comments. The fact that we pay Vodafone for our celphone service I assumed that it was on the Vodafone network.

If johnr who I assume is a Vodafone employee and has access to info that I don't re the network I guess he must be right.


If he can enlighten me to the how these things are setup and work that would be great.


Cheers Paul.



but he says it's HIS WIFES mobile, so as the bill payer, surely he knows who he pays the bills to? perhaps the number was ported out and back, but I'd vote WITH the bill payer here, sorry JohnR, but databases can be known to be out of date/incorrect too?

maybe this is even why it failed?

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  #1196372 12-Dec-2014 15:22
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PhantomNVD:
kiwipawl:
freitasm: I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.



When I get home tonight I will physically check which network my wife's phone is on.

This really has seems gotten a bit out of control as I am not "insisting" that it is a Vodafone problem just replying to johnr comments. The fact that we pay Vodafone for our celphone service I assumed that it was on the Vodafone network.

If johnr who I assume is a Vodafone employee and has access to info that I don't re the network I guess he must be right.


If he can enlighten me to the how these things are setup and work that would be great.


Cheers Paul.



but he says it's HIS WIFES mobile, so as the bill payer, surely he knows who he pays the bills to? perhaps the number was ported out and back, but I'd vote WITH the bill payer here, sorry JohnR, but databases can be known to be out of date/incorrect too?

maybe this is even why it failed?


OK how about this " The mobile number is not in the Vodafone NZ HLR "

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  #1196374 12-Dec-2014 15:23
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The number not being on the HLR is a firm indicator it's not a Vodafone account...

Let's see what The Wife says tonight.

Queue James bond music.







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kiwipawl:
johnr:
kiwipawl:
freitasm: I am told this recipient number (without being told the number) is on another network, ported some time ago.

We are told the SMS is passed to this other network instantly.

From this point it is up to the other network to deliver.

I can't understand why the OP is insisting this is a Vodafone problem. I have not seen evidence this recipient is on Vodafone yet - only the other way around.



When I get home tonight I will physically check which network my wife's phone is on.

This really has seems gotten a bit out of control as I am not "insisting" that it is a Vodafone problem just replying to johnr comments. The fact that we pay Vodafone for our celphone service I assumed that it was on the Vodafone network.

If johnr who I assume is a Vodafone employee and has access to info that I don't re the network I guess he must be right.


If he can enlighten me to the how these things are setup and work that would be great.


Cheers Paul.



Hi Paul

Please call your wife and ask who her service provider is (who she pays to use her phone)


I already have and she told me Vodafone. I you want to contact her and tell she is wrong fell free to because I ain't.


OK if you are happy for me to call her doing this now, I am going to ask her to remove the SIM card and check what company logo is on it

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  #1196378 12-Dec-2014 15:25
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Most likerly not a good Idea really. I will check to night.

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  #1196379 12-Dec-2014 15:26
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This read like something from a survivor episode......I'd vote you all off the island




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