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Wannabe Geek
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#322285 24-Apr-2010 02:39

I have been following this thread for months as I was one of the ones getting 25mins loading time for a 5 min video from youtube - would play 5 secs and then would have to pause and do something elese for next half an hour. I tried to stay away from youtube but every now and then would get utterly frustrated and revist here to see if any progress was being made. It was unusable and I have tried Firefox, IE, Chrome and Avant with the same results.
I am happy to report that performance with Firefox has gome from Total Utter Hair Pulling Rubish to mildly bad with the help of http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2009/08/how-to-change-firefox-settings-to-improve-youtube-performance.html

now I only get 20 or so short stutters in a 5 min youtube vid

Has anyone who is getting the worst performance and has firefox tried this with what results?

eXDee

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#322372 24-Apr-2010 14:15

I've had to reload the page 5 times to actually make the video start buffering. Now its taken 5mins and buffered 30 seconds of video.
Its actually faster to tunnel via SSH to a server in the USA than it is to connect directly.

And i have a sync rate of 20mbit too....

Zach

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Master Geek

#322387 24-Apr-2010 15:21

Since tunnelling improves speeds, hopefully it's not just the cache that they're working. If it is, the low view count videos are still going to suffer (thats most of them...)

uber

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Geek

#322396 24-Apr-2010 16:01

yeah ive been talking about this and dns in another topic, system response,

does your dns support anycast? that video was crap 2 btw,

that might help, the video was fine at off peak times tho

Screeb

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#322425 24-Apr-2010 18:15

sparkiwi: I have been following this thread for months as I was one of the ones getting 25mins loading time for a 5 min video from youtube - would play 5 secs and then would have to pause and do something elese for next half an hour. I tried to stay away from youtube but every now and then would get utterly frustrated and revist here to see if any progress was being made. It was unusable and I have tried Firefox, IE, Chrome and Avant with the same results.
I am happy to report that performance with Firefox has gome from Total Utter Hair Pulling Rubish to mildly bad with the help of http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2009/08/how-to-change-firefox-settings-to-improve-youtube-performance.html

now I only get 20 or so short stutters in a 5 min youtube vid

Has anyone who is getting the worst performance and has firefox tried this with what results?

I used this previously to try to fix an unrelated issue, and I was also curious at the time to see if it made YouTube any better as advertised, but no, this doesn't make any difference for me (nor did it solve my unrelated issue).

thebender

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Geek

#322517 25-Apr-2010 00:07

sparkiwi: I have been following this thread for months as I was one of the ones getting 25mins loading time for a 5 min video from youtube - would play 5 secs and then would have to pause and do something elese for next half an hour. I tried to stay away from youtube but every now and then would get utterly frustrated and revist here to see if any progress was being made. It was unusable and I have tried Firefox, IE, Chrome and Avant with the same results.
I am happy to report that performance with Firefox has gome from Total Utter Hair Pulling Rubish to mildly bad with the help of http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2009/08/how-to-change-firefox-settings-to-improve-youtube-performance.html

now I only get 20 or so short stutters in a 5 min youtube vid

Has anyone who is getting the worst performance and has firefox tried this with what results?

Well, I'm with you on that - youtube has gone from TUHPR (to borrow a phrase - thanks) to mildly bad. Overall FF performance seems the same.

Before I did this, I was the same, but found myself vieweing Hitler meme's (as they're starting to be removed) - but gave up due to the sh&t performance - found this piece of advise, and now only stop once or twice during t 2-3min video.

Good ? - no. Better ? - Yes

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PenultimateHop

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#322521 25-Apr-2010 00:16

uber: does your dns support anycast?

Anycast is a routing trick - it has nothing to do with DNS.

uber

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#322531 25-Apr-2010 01:49

wiki says that google dns runs anycast

PenultimateHop

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#322533 25-Apr-2010 01:59

uber: wiki says that google dns runs anycast

It's still a routing trick. If you like Wiki, go read the Anycast page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast.

In a nutshell: Anycast is a routing technique to announce the same IP prefix (block of IPs) from multiple locations, and rely on routing protocols (such as BGP) to follow the shortest path to get there, which implies the closest location. It is particularly good for stateless protocols such as DNS, and lots of DNS infrastructure is deployed that way such as Google DNS, a number of Root and GTLD servers, and so forth.

ritchie

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Wannabe Geek

#323322 27-Apr-2010 00:39

Another disgruntled Telstra Clear user - this time in Takapuna.
For me youtube is almost not an option any more - even on the lower quality options - it has got much worse over the last 2 months. 10-20 minutes to buffer a 5 min video kind of service. Still terrible right now at 12.40am.

No problem with torrents - and no problem watching video on vimeo or veoh - they stream fine.

TelstraClear must be doing something surely?

Ritchie

uber

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#323333 27-Apr-2010 01:45

try html5 and featherlight in you tube,

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=60500

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#323455 27-Apr-2010 10:42

75mins to load a 2m 52s YT Clip last night.

This is beyond ridiculous.

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eXDee

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#323769 27-Apr-2010 17:04

It'd be nice to have a logical explanation of how its actually possible for it to be this bad without any kind of interference on their part. It simply does not make sense to me that something can be this bad especially when the majority of other sites and service are fine.

To me the only explanation i can think of is them shaping it, but then doesnt make sense either because then it makes them look bad. Not going to put the tinfoil hat on just yet.

sleemanj

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#323777 27-Apr-2010 17:17

eXDee: It'd be nice to have a logical explanation of how its actually possible for it to be this bad without any kind of interference on their part. It simply does not make sense to me that something can be this bad...

Being entirely hypothetical and ignoring "don't be evil" for a moment, one would expect that if Google were to radically throttle traffic to "non-cooperative" ISPs, that it would be in their benefit by way of "encouraging" pressure on the ISP form it's customers to GET cooperative.

If an ISP has a pathological dislike of peering, and isn't keen on running a cache then you'd expect that Google would find that to be a very non-cooperative ISP.

You would expect that Google could continue to put pressure on an ISP in this way until the ISP gives in, or loses it's customers to a more cooperative competitor. Either way, Google wins.

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Zigg

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#323820 27-Apr-2010 18:54

These speeds are currently worse than dialup.

How slow can you go...

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