Ultra Fast Broadband available now from Vodafone over Enable Networks, Ultrafast Fibre coming soon

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#1122740 5-Sep-2014 20:23

cws82us: yes

Thats all good, Getting it sorted in that time isnt bad at all :)
Should be a good network and ISP to be connecting via.

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#1122978 6-Sep-2014 11:09

Hey NikT and others if you could help me out.

So Fibre is available in my area now, and was just wanting to get a bit more information on it to see whether it is worth it or not. I called up vodafone to see if it was available, and the consultant recommended that I get the ultra fast cable instead, so then that got me thinking.

Chorus says:
Network capability:
UFB fibre up to 100 Mbps
Broadband > 20 Mbps (with the right modem and plan)
Broadband > 10 Mbps

Vodafone: (Probably go with them since have sky etc with them already)
- Ultra fast cable 50mbps, for $105 a month or $30 more to upgrade from 50mpbs to 130mpbs. (Unlimited data)
- Fibre 30mps same price and same price to upgrade from 30mpbs to 130mpbs (Unlimited data)

So in theory is it better just to go with the cable, as it is the same price and is 20mbps faster (30mbps fibre vs 50mbps cable)

Thanks

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#1123070 6-Sep-2014 13:07

flixide: Hey NikT and others if you could help me out.

So Fibre is available in my area now, and was just wanting to get a bit more information on it to see whether it is worth it or not. I called up vodafone to see if it was available, and the consultant recommended that I get the ultra fast cable instead, so then that got me thinking.

Chorus says:
Network capability:
UFB fibre up to 100 Mbps
Broadband > 20 Mbps (with the right modem and plan)
Broadband > 10 Mbps

Vodafone: (Probably go with them since have sky etc with them already)
- Ultra fast cable 50mbps, for $105 a month or $30 more to upgrade from 50mpbs to 130mpbs. (Unlimited data)
- Fibre 30mps same price and same price to upgrade from 30mpbs to 130mpbs (Unlimited data)

So in theory is it better just to go with the cable, as it is the same price and is 20mbps faster (30mbps fibre vs 50mbps cable)

Thanks

If you live in a cable area, Vodafone will refuse to offer you UFB.

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#1123111 6-Sep-2014 13:51

Lias:
flixide: Hey NikT and others if you could help me out.

So Fibre is available in my area now, and was just wanting to get a bit more information on it to see whether it is worth it or not. I called up vodafone to see if it was available, and the consultant recommended that I get the ultra fast cable instead, so then that got me thinking.

Chorus says:
Network capability:
UFB fibre up to 100 Mbps
Broadband > 20 Mbps (with the right modem and plan)
Broadband > 10 Mbps

Vodafone: (Probably go with them since have sky etc with them already)
- Ultra fast cable 50mbps, for $105 a month or $30 more to upgrade from 50mpbs to 130mpbs. (Unlimited data)
- Fibre 30mps same price and same price to upgrade from 30mpbs to 130mpbs (Unlimited data)

So in theory is it better just to go with the cable, as it is the same price and is 20mbps faster (30mbps fibre vs 50mbps cable)

Thanks

If you live in a cable area, Vodafone will refuse to offer you UFB.

Oh really what? The consultant offered me UFB I swear lol. He did a check and said it was available. He then recommended cable however as it was 20mbps faster (if I was just sticking to the fibre 30mbps), as cable would be faster + no digging required etc?

I'm kinda confused lol

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#1124341 8-Sep-2014 14:26

It is correct that fibre is not available where cable is. As John has said, work is being done to upgrade the cable network at present - watch this space. :)

Right now I'm in the middle of waiting on consenting and feasibility for a fibre install & wish I could get cable.

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#1124504 8-Sep-2014 16:38

NikT: It is correct that fibre is not available where cable is. As John has said, work is being done to upgrade the cable network at present - watch this space. :)

Right now I'm in the middle of waiting on consenting and feasibility for a fibre install & wish I could get cable.

So you mean to tell me that if I am able to get cable in my area then fibre is not allowed in my area?

The chorus map says fibre is available in my area, and when I called up vodafone, they said I'd be able to get fibre installed?

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#1124507 8-Sep-2014 16:41

flixide:
NikT: It is correct that fibre is not available where cable is. As John has said, work is being done to upgrade the cable network at present - watch this space. :)

Right now I'm in the middle of waiting on consenting and feasibility for a fibre install & wish I could get cable.

So you mean to tell me that if I am able to get cable in my area then fibre is not allowed in my area?

The chorus map says fibre is available in my area, and when I called up vodafone, they said I'd be able to get fibre installed?

Yes, if Vodafone cable is available then Vodafone will sell you cable service and will not sell you Fibre (or DSL based services).

That doesn't stop you buying fibre from another ISP.

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#1124521 8-Sep-2014 16:54

Confirming that Enable fibre is now live. Plan info coming tomorrow. :)

flixide:
NikT: It is correct that fibre is not available where cable is. As John has said, work is being done to upgrade the cable network at present - watch this space. :)

Right now I'm in the middle of waiting on consenting and feasibility for a fibre install & wish I could get cable.

So you mean to tell me that if I am able to get cable in my area then fibre is not allowed in my area?

The chorus map says fibre is available in my area, and when I called up vodafone, they said I'd be able to get fibre installed?

Graemeh is correct - if your address can be serviced with cable, we prefer to go with cable, as we own and operate the network. If it can't get cable, any other access method - ADSL, VDSL, or fibre - is fair game.

Sounds like the sales rep may have been a little confused. If they had submitted a fibre order for a cable address, it would likely have been rejected.

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#1124524 8-Sep-2014 16:59

Ok thanks for clearing that up mate

What is this enable fibre?

In the future will it be possible to bypass the cable and go straight to fibre with Vodafone?

I'm thinking of getting cable or fibre, I'm currently on the entertainment plan with Vodafone, only adsl2 so I'm wanting a big upgrade in speeds

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#1124566 8-Sep-2014 17:32

flixide: Ok thanks for clearing that up mate

What is this enable fibre?

In the future will it be possible to bypass the cable and go straight to fibre with Vodafone?

I'm thinking of getting cable or fibre, I'm currently on the entertainment plan with Vodafone, only adsl2 so I'm wanting a big upgrade in speeds

Enable is a 'Local Fibre Company' like Chorus, Ultrafast Fibre, and Northpower. Enable has the contract for the fibre rollout in Canterbury (Aside from a few Chorus fibre subdivisions). Because the four different LFCs have different back-ends and portals and ways of communicating order information/logistics/et cetera, it has taken a while to get agreements, testing, supply chains, hardware, and software in line so different ISPs in NZ can offer services through all four fibre providers - hence this thread to announce that Vodafone can now offer fibre in Enable and UFF areas. :)

Info on Enable including coverage maps is available on their site here.

Unsure on any future plans to offer fibre where cable is available. I would personally speculate that it will happen, but probably not soon.

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#1124584 8-Sep-2014 17:41

flixide: Ok thanks for clearing that up mate

What is this enable fibre?

In the future will it be possible to bypass the cable and go straight to fibre with Vodafone?

I'm thinking of getting cable or fibre, I'm currently on the entertainment plan with Vodafone, only adsl2 so I'm wanting a big upgrade in speeds

Enable is the company that provides UFB fibre in Christchurch, Waimakariri and Selwyn Districts.

Depending on what speed ADSL you get now, basic fibre could easily be 2-3x faster, less if you have a really great connection and more if it's crap. Cable is likely to be faster again because of the current plans they offer(50/130 vs 30/100 ), but that may well change in the future.

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#1124591 8-Sep-2014 17:55

Lias:
flixide: Ok thanks for clearing that up mate

What is this enable fibre?

In the future will it be possible to bypass the cable and go straight to fibre with Vodafone?

I'm thinking of getting cable or fibre, I'm currently on the entertainment plan with Vodafone, only adsl2 so I'm wanting a big upgrade in speeds

Enable is the company that provides UFB fibre in Christchurch, Waimakariri and Selwyn Districts.

Depending on what speed ADSL you get now, basic fibre could easily be 2-3x faster, less if you have a really great connection and more if it's crap. Cable is likely to be faster again because of the current plans they offer(50/130 vs 30/100 ), but that may well change in the future.

Ohk i'm in Wellington.

I might just go for ultra fast 50 cable plan with vodafone (50mbps), or will look around to see if other ISPS are offering good fibre plans. It really does suck how fibre is not available if cable is...Wouldn't most places have cable available anyways, so fibre with vodafone is basically impossible? It should really explain on the website about this....as for most users who don't even check forums etc will have no clue and they will just be thinking yay fibre is available and I can get it.....

Orcon is looking good tbh, no capped speeds etc. $115 for the 100mbps plan, which is $20 cheaper than vodafone anyways

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#1124965 9-Sep-2014 12:41

flixide:

Ohk i'm in Wellington.

I might just go for ultra fast 50 cable plan with vodafone (50mbps), or will look around to see if other ISPS are offering good fibre plans. It really does suck how fibre is not available if cable is...Wouldn't most places have cable available anyways, so fibre with vodafone is basically impossible? It should really explain on the website about this....as for most users who don't even check forums etc will have no clue and they will just be thinking yay fibre is available and I can get it.....

Orcon is looking good tbh, no capped speeds etc. $115 for the 100mbps plan, which is $20 cheaper than vodafone anyways

Wellington is serviced by Chorus for fibre (As you probably know!) so no issues there. There are some places that have been unable to get cable due to the cost or complexity of installation, or the network not being rolled out in that suburb, but thanks to subsidised fibre installs, are able to get this instead.

I would wager that most folks are concerned about the technical aspect of the services they receive - be it ADSL, VDSL, fibre, or cable, they just want a fast, reliable service at the best price. Cable and fibre are currently quite comparable, and unless you specifically need the higher upstream speeds that the GPON fibre networks can provide over the DOCSIS cable network, it should be much of a muchness for the majority of people - with the advantage of cable currently having a much more straightforward installation process.

The website works by offering you a package builder, which prompts for an address, then tells you what's available at that address - unless you enter an address that can get cable but is not showing as such in the database, there should be no point at which fibre is offered in an area it is not available through Vodafone for business reasons rather than physical network capability.

As for that pricing - watch this space. :)

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#1125565 10-Sep-2014 09:06

Pricing should be current on the website for all providers.

Vodafone Ultra Fast Broadband over fibre is enabled by the government funded 'UFB' rollout.

Fibre through Chorus (with Vodafone TV) is available in parts of:

    Wellington
    Dunedin
    Palmerston North
    Auckland
    Blenheim
    Invercargill
    Napier
    Hastings
    Rotorua
    Timaru
    Masterton
    Levin
    Ashburton
    Queenstown
    Whakatane

Fibre through Northpower is currently available in parts of Whangarei with Vodafone TV

Fibre through Enable (without access to Ultrafast 200 at present) is available to parts of Christchurch with Vodafone TV

Fibre through Chorus(without Vodafone TV) is currently available in parts of:

    Hamilton
    Hawera
    New Plymouth
    Tauranga
    Te Awamutu
    Tokaroa
    Wanganui

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