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#1860713 8-Sep-2017 10:09

timmmay:
freitasm:

As I said, performance and security should be in the development team's mind when they implement anything. There should have unit, system, integration and regression tests in every single step of the development lifecycle.

Release managers that authorise deployment without having a check mark against security items shouldn't be release managers.

Security testing can be challenging, particularly automated testing. Tinfoil Security that you recommended a while back is an interesting option.

Sometimes project / release managers will say "we need security testing", business owners will say "no get it live asap".

Frustrates me to no end when security concerns are not taken seriously by release managers.
At a previous role, i left the company due to this situation.

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#1860726 8-Sep-2017 10:43

Mr NBR is now reporting it....

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#1860727 8-Sep-2017 10:44

antoniosk: Mr NBR is now reporting it....

Complete with a very serious looking picture of Big Daddy!

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#1860728 8-Sep-2017 10:46

I asked them to add the link to CERT at the bottom of the article.

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#1860729 8-Sep-2017 10:46

timmmay:

Sometimes project / release managers will say "we need security testing", business owners will say "no get it live asap".

As long as they 'say' it in form where responsibility for the choice can be definitively traced, that's fine. Then when the proverbial hits the fan, the person signing off on the shortcuts can be clearly identified and dealt with appropriately.

I've had it few times over the years where blame for a decision outside my hands and against my recommendations has come back to bite someone (who really shouldn't even have been making the decision due to their obvious lack of knowledge) but not before they tried to blame me. But the trail always cleared me. One place I worked at in the mid-90s I had a decoy manilla folder clearly labelled "BLAME FILE" in my desk drawer which I went to great pains to make my superiors aware of, plus the real "BLAME FILE" in my bag which went home with me each day, due to my distrust of one particularly incompetent and deceitful manager and his demonstrated propensity to try and blame others for his decisions. One particular design which I recommended not be implemented soon failed exactly as I had expected and my decoy "BLAME FILE" disappeared from my desk drawer with the duplicate evidence that I'd told him that it would. When they tried to haul me over the coals under the guise of a "design review" you can imagine the expression on that PoS's face when I produced the evidence he denied existed from my real file. Fun times!

Naturally nothing came of his blatant lies but everyone then knew not to mess with me which steered the "confident but incompetent" (as I call them) away from me entirely. It really couldn't have worked out better!

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#1860730 8-Sep-2017 10:49

@cadman:

I've had it few times over the years where blame for a decision outside my hands and against my recommendations has come back to bite someone (who really shouldn't even have been making the decision due to their obvious lack of knowledge) but not before they tried to blame me. But the trail always cleared me. One place I worked at in the mid-90s I had a decoy manilla folder clearly labelled "BLAME FILE" in my desk drawer which I went to great pains to make my superiors aware of, plus the real "BLAME FILE" in my bag which went home with me each day, due to my distrust of one particularly incompetent and deceitful manager and his demonstrated propensity to try and blame others for his decisions. One particular design which I recommended not be implemented soon failed exactly as I had expected and my decoy "BLAME FILE" disappeared from my desk drawer with the duplicate evidence that I'd told him that it would. When they tried to haul me over the coals under the guise of a "design review" you can imagine the expression on that PoS's face when I produced the evidence he denied existed from my real file. Fun times!

Naturally nothing came of his blatant lies but everyone then knew not to mess with me which steered the "confident but incompetent" (as I call them) away from me entirely. It really couldn't have worked out better!

You sound like some Russian oligarch with Kompromat material on politicians and adversaries. Sheesh.

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#1860770 8-Sep-2017 11:38

timmmay:

antoniosk: Mr NBR is now reporting it....

Complete with a very serious looking picture of Big Daddy!

Yep, well done MF.

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#1861020 8-Sep-2017 16:03

Ahh Geekzone, you've done it again! https://futurefive.co.nz/story/vodafone-nz-customer-finds-major-loophone-my-vodafone-system/

Well done to the OP, et al.

ETA: The above isn't behind a paywall, unlike the NBR story

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#1861058 8-Sep-2017 17:55

freitasm:

You sound like some Russian oligarch with Kompromat material on politicians and adversaries. Sheesh.

One must cover one's own arse.

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#1862517 11-Sep-2017 20:15

cadman:

freitasm:

You sound like some Russian oligarch with Kompromat material on politicians and adversaries. Sheesh.

One must cover one's own arse.

Having been on the wrong end of at least three witch hunts in the corporate / govt world of development I would have to say the CYA is obligatory, not paranoid. it saved my job and the job of two co-workers when we were able to bring out evidence and turn the smoking gun back on the accuser with ferreted away evidence. Sad but true reflection of corporate / govt development environments in many places. Toxic, toxic, toxic!!

I would recommend using email - confirming with a person giving a dumb order, that you have recevied their order, what the order is, and your objections to it - but showing compliance by following said order. make sure you cc it off site as well. Emails in third party servers like gmail stand as legal evidence, and cant be erased by the unethical.

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