Interesting their website is still falsely advertising unlimited data with hotspot included. 

https://www.mightymobile.co.nz/ 

raytaylor:

 

Interesting their website is still falsely advertising unlimited data with hotspot included. 

 

https://www.mightymobile.co.nz/ 

 

Well... yes, that's still technically correct. They aren't charging an additional fee to use it, it's just the amount of data able to be used for hotspot is changing. It's still included.

Which means that the 'unlimited' statement is not accurate?

Misleading is still illegal. 

SomeoneSomewhere:

 

Which means that the 'unlimited' statement is not accurate?

 

 

 

Misleading is still illegal. 

 

It doesn't specify if the hotspot is unlimited or not. It also hasn't changed yet, so they should have a * next to it I guess, with a footnote "this will change on X date to"

We're less than a month away, so anyone who buys even a 1-month plan (for hotspotting) is going to be affected.

raytaylor:

 

grantius:

 

Hotspotting usually adds to TTL which is how they tell, if you are rooted on Android you can change it so the TTL doesn't increase.

 

 

I thought they just use the separate hotspot data channel (like a vlan) in the mobile connection that your phone creates and treat them as two separate connections rather than supplying them as two connections but combining them from a billing perspective. 

 

Nah, here's a good write up on it

https://josephscottcampbell.com/posts/get-free-hotspot-data/

Your SIM tells the phone whuch APN to use for data on the device itself vs data for hot spotting if they are different APNs the they will know

If you out the SIM in a 4G/5G router they and set the APN they will seen it as mobile data vs hotspotting data but they will then see the IMEI of a router

Then if use a Mikrotik router you can forge the IMEI of the router’s 4G5G modem to say that of an iPhone along with the mobile data APN then they wont know at all.

All of this is against their terms and conditions along with using a mobile plan as a fixed wireless plan

divxmaster:

 

I use a lot of data, sure they say you cant use it in a router, but nothing about using it in a phone and using that phone as a router.

 

Using your mobile plan full time as a replacement for a fixed home connection is absolutely against every providers Ts & Cs

Just to update this thread that Mighty Mobile's cheapest plan at $25/month is no longer unlimited data. You now only get 5GB at max speed, then you have to buy data packs. Their next plan up is $40/month.

I am now on the last month of a promotional deal with them for $20/month, so will be having to look for a different provider that can do unlimited data for less than $30.

Thanks a lot to the greedy ones who 'hot-spotted' from routers. You ruined this cheap plan for everyone else, who just needed a cheap phone plan. You are why we can't have nice things.

The Mighty Mobile Fast plan paid on a yearly basis works out to $33 per month.  

rp1790:

 

The Mighty Mobile Fast plan paid on a yearly basis works out to $33 per month.  

 

Yes I saw that, but I prefer to now not be 'locked in' to any telco for more than a month at a time. 20 years of being with Vodafone and also considering a possible move overseas, I don't want to be losing money.

RogerMellie:

 

Thanks a lot to the greedy ones who 'hot-spotted' from routers. You ruined this cheap plan for everyone else, who just needed a cheap phone plan. You are why we can't have nice things.

 

This always happens when someone sells something as "unlimited" when they don't have the resources to make it unlimited for their entire customer base including the heavy users.  You have to find a way to restrict usage, but you still want to advertise it as "unlimited."

Especially when you're an MVNO and are charging users a flat rate but probably paying your supplier, the cell network, per GB.

When the resource is network capacity, the usual lever is to throttle or ban various uses:

• hotspotting / sharing your connection
• VoIP (in the old days)
• P2P
• video streaming
• VPNs (being used to circumvent the above)

and then you end up playing cat-and-mouse with your more sophisticated customers.

Your options are different when you own the towers, you pay in congestion rather than $$$, and you can run them as hot as you want.

RogerMellie: ... so will be having to look for a different provider that can do unlimited data for less than $30.

Keen to know what you find.

Zeronet does unlimited for $25/mo but capped at 3Mb/s.

SomeoneSomewhere:

 

Zeronet does unlimited for $25/mo but capped at 3Mb/s.

 

This is all I need for streaming music and answering teams calls audio only on Bluetooth!