'Quality' NZ news on the way?

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#205874 30-Nov-2016 15:36

News site launch plans revealed

So what do we think? I like the idea and would be prepared to support it in principle if the subscription fee is not ridiculous. Something like this is way overdue.

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#1680146 30-Nov-2016 15:46

Maybe. I have not seen much evidence that we have quality journalists here to begin with but perhaps they are just suppressed by the smoke screens of Churnalism etc.

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#1680149 30-Nov-2016 15:49

NBR has proven that subscription sites can work, people will pay for quality content.

Traditional media can't deliver that quality content as they have to deliver to the lowest common denominator of click-bait news headlines

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#1680151 30-Nov-2016 15:54

The named journalists are a bunch of light-weights.

Rod Oram is no lightweight, but he isn't journalist.

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#1680152 30-Nov-2016 15:55

We have some excellent television journalists here, they just are not allowed to exercise their craft.

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#1680155 30-Nov-2016 15:57

Rikkitic:

We have some excellent television journalists here, they just are not allowed to exercise their craft.

Then how would you know they were excellent?

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#1680169 30-Nov-2016 16:12

That isn't worth answering.

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#1680180 30-Nov-2016 16:34

Mediaworks is a good example of dollars before staff and dollars before news...they are a shocker. Wouldnt surprise me if they shutdown next year at the rate they are going. Sad cause NZ needs competition.

I remember when Dominion and Evening Post were merged in Wellington and all the promises that were made to the readers....now the DomPost is half of one of the two in size....

there has to be a paying model that the masses would subscribe to that costs less then the hardcopy version by far.

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#1680188 30-Nov-2016 17:04

Pumpedd:

there has to be a paying model that the masses would subscribe to that costs less then the hardcopy version by far.

There is

https://dompost.mypaper.co.nz/

$20/month, vs around $48 for the printed version

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#1680212 30-Nov-2016 18:02

wellygary:

Pumpedd:

there has to be a paying model that the masses would subscribe to that costs less then the hardcopy version by far.

There is

https://dompost.mypaper.co.nz/

$20/month, vs around $48 for the printed version

NZHerald is $10/month for the digital edition. https://nzherald.digitaledition.nzme.co.nz

Or you can get it - and lots of other publications like WSJ, FT, etc via Pressreader at USD30/month/publication (or USD0.99 for a single copy of a newspaper). Magazine pricing might be different, I've never looked.

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#1680216 30-Nov-2016 18:10

MikeAqua:
The named journalists are a bunch of light-weights.

Rod Oram is no lightweight, but he isn't journalist.

Solid reporting is the basis of news. Don't knock it. Also, Rod Oram is a journalist ; ).

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#1680217 30-Nov-2016 18:13

Don't hold out much hope, if it works it will be sold then killed, if it doesn't work it will fail within two years.

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#1680218 30-Nov-2016 18:14

Geektastic:

Maybe. I have not seen much evidence that we have quality journalists here to begin with but perhaps they are just suppressed by the smoke screens of Churnalism etc.

We have the same percentage of good journalists as any other developed nation.

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#1680220 30-Nov-2016 18:23

The problem is digital editions are just the hardversion, scanned in and view able on a computer. They are therefore not in a format that is easy to read and navigate through. I wouldn't pay for that. I would prefer to pay a bit more and get the actual newspaper, so it isn't a solution.

Maybe they need to look at something similar to Flipboard. These newspaper apps are a better format, but lack a lot of the stories, and filled with opinion pieces and advertorials, where you don't know what you are really reading.

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#1680221 30-Nov-2016 18:24

MikeB4:

Geektastic:

Maybe. I have not seen much evidence that we have quality journalists here to begin with but perhaps they are just suppressed by the smoke screens of Churnalism etc.

We have the same percentage of good journalists as any other developed nation.

At the moment, but according to these media companies, if the merger doesn't occur, that will likely go down.

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#1680223 30-Nov-2016 18:27

Rikkitic: So what do we think? I like the idea and would be prepared to support it in principle if the subscription fee is not ridiculous. Something like this is way overdue.

It looks like a solid effort and will bring together several services and add. Imo they are going to need to sell on content to other services to survive, that will be key.

Additionally, if they can use it to provide a solid outlet for some of NZs solid independent journalists it has potential to make a splash now and then. If it encourages a few more to go independent that's probably a good thing also.

I dislike the fact that the editors are also running a media consulting business too much potential for compromise.

They will have to be smart to succeed with big plans, but they already have enough for a comfortable niche.

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