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MikeAqua

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#1980440 20-Mar-2018 11:48

The article/study being discussed on The AM show actually said that working mothers work an average of 98 hours per week between home and work. It's data from the US where casual labour for house cleaning etc is cheap as chips ... hire some help.

When we both worked and had younger kids to look after we just paid a bunch of people to do work around the house. We were still financially better off than if one of us had stayed at home.

With modern appliances the daily laundry, cooking and dishes are a piece of cake. If you pay someone to do the weekly house keeping, there isn't much at all left to do on weekends.

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#1980445 20-Mar-2018 11:57

MikeB4:

and the thoughtless rants of a one time sportsperson matters how?

Because he's in a position to influence people's views given he's got a platform.

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#1980453 20-Mar-2018 12:01

Pretty funny people slagging Stuff stories and then discussing it lol and rotfl. My goodness it's relevant journalism you can't have it both ways people..

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#1980454 20-Mar-2018 12:02

MikeAqua:

The article/study being discussed on The AM show actually said that working mothers work an average of 98 hours per week between home and work. It's data from the US where casual labour for house cleaning etc is cheap as chips ... hire some help.

When we both worked and had younger kids to look after we just paid a bunch of people to do work around the house. We were still financially better off than if one of us had stayed at home.

With modern appliances the daily laundry, cooking and dishes are a piece of cake. If you pay someone to do the weekly house keeping, there isn't much at all left to do on weekends.

Three kids all got to get to and from sports, and if it's cricket probably have to umpire or score. Then there's some sort of family activity - take them skiing or fishing, biking or whatever. Then there's lawns to mow, something always needs to be repaired, something needs to be painted etc...

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#1980476 20-Mar-2018 13:17

kryptonjohn:

Three kids all got to get to and from sports, and if it's cricket probably have to umpire or score. Then there's some sort of family activity - take them skiing or fishing, biking or whatever. Then there's lawns to mow, something always needs to be repaired, something needs to be painted etc...

Skiing fishing or biking is not work.

Maintenance and lawns are work, but again if one is time poor, pay someone else to do it.

Kids sports can be a PITA, but kids don't have to do sport. I personally think it's good for them but ultimately it's elective. Cricket is one of the worst, second only to rowing in time-burn. I've generally encouraged my kids towards shorter sports and avoided summer sport as there are plenty of other fun active things to do.

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#1980484 20-Mar-2018 13:32

MikeAqua:

kryptonjohn:

Three kids all got to get to and from sports, and if it's cricket probably have to umpire or score. Then there's some sort of family activity - take them skiing or fishing, biking or whatever. Then there's lawns to mow, something always needs to be repaired, something needs to be painted etc...

Skiing fishing or biking is not work.

Maintenance and lawns are work, but again if one is time poor, pay someone else to do it.

Kids sports can be a PITA, but kids don't have to do sport. I personally think it's good for them but ultimately it's elective. Cricket is one of the worst, second only to rowing in time-burn. I've generally encouraged my kids towards shorter sports and avoided summer sport as there are plenty of other fun active things to do.

Well, you just said there isn't much left to do on weekends. You didn't specify whether "to do" was work or not?

Whether it can be paid for or not doesn't matter. It's still something that needs to be done whether the equity comes from cash or sweat.

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#1980542 20-Mar-2018 14:54

My wife and I have friction over this on an occasional basis (usually after she has spent time in mothers groups on facebook!). She adds the hours she works in employment and the number of hours she "works" looking after the kids and house.

Whilst I understand looking after kids is a difficult process, it's something we willingly agreed and wanted to do together. She does more of it, and I work a greater number of hours at my office.

All things we do that are worth having is hard "work". I wanted to improve in Squash, I worked hard. I don't add this to the hours I spent putting a roof over our heads. There is a fair bit of recreation time in looking after kids as well.

I do understand the perfectly normal desire that caregivers want to be recognised for their effort, but I have yet to hear an argument that changes my position that it's not a job.

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#1980622 20-Mar-2018 17:46

I didnt actually mean to get us all discussing the topic hehe, but while we are at it, i agree with Mark Richardson. hes just stating the obvious.

its not a job, its a duty of care. what I dont get is why people CHOOSE to have kids then want to be recognised for it, by who? surely their kids recognise it, their family members, is the world going mad.....

not everyone makes the choice to have kids but you hear far less from them on how those that do choose to have kids are sucking their tax payers money up. so id quit while I was ahead if i was the ones looking for credit outside the domestic environment.

the people its a job for a care child care workers. the rest are called mums and dads.

why do we have to over complicate the world and keep fixing whats not broken.

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#1980624 20-Mar-2018 17:49

MikeAqua:

When we both worked and had younger kids to look after we just paid a bunch of people to do work around the house. We were still financially better off than if one of us had stayed at home.

With modern appliances the daily laundry, cooking and dishes are a piece of cake. If you pay someone to do the weekly house keeping, there isn't much at all left to do on weekends.

Agreed.

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