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#465841 5-May-2011 16:50

Friend had a cheap GPS tracker in their car. It was stolen, even the SMS back from it with a GPS fix of a manurewa house that you could put into google maps and see a property was not enough to have them go out.

Bt the time the police were motivated to do anything it was gone, GPS went offline about 20 mins later. Found it stripped and burned out hunua way 2 days later. Hopeless idiots

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#465843 5-May-2011 16:51

In my case it's not a GPS mounted on the dash, but a GPS tracking device for vehicle monitoring/management. It's a bit more sophisticated than that and most thieves wouldn't even know what it is if they see it...

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#465885 5-May-2011 18:32

freitasm: I would like to imagine that if my car is stolen I could get to a police station with my laptop, login into the service and show a map on screen with the exact location where my car is *right now* - and see the police going there to confirm there's my car parked in someone else's backyard.

Last time my car was stolen (mine is also GPS tracked), a quick call to 111 and the cop that turned up was excited to do a chase with GPS assistance - unfortunately for us the car had been dumped before he had got there.

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#465986 5-May-2011 22:50

As long as the information provider can prove the data is coming from a device they own, provision of a current address via GPS data coupled with their complaint is more than sufficient to obtain a search warrant.

Possibly it's something some cops just don't understand so it goes straight into the "too hard" basket - hence the lack of follow up or advice that there's not enough for a search warrant.

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#466018 6-May-2011 06:36

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#466025 6-May-2011 07:53

Video is just about that :)

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#466027 6-May-2011 08:00

Seen that video. Funny as hell!

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#467763 10-May-2011 22:19

Just thought I would add a personal experience. If you make sure you get the right officer, within 2 hours you can have a search warrant and your item recovered and a person arrested for theft. The warrant was required in this case as the item was in a private residence.

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#467774 10-May-2011 23:25

I saw this in the news today and thought of this thread:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/4981368/iGotcha-high-tech-victim-turns-tables

As others have said, the police are interested in following these types of cases up, you just need to talk to the right officer and persist.

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#467980 11-May-2011 16:45

Actually that's a good idea how you can track you pc if stolen I would like something like that.

Ive done to all my pcs ive owned in the past - chain the computer to something big & heavy it wont put the professional burglar off he/she will most likely have bolt cutters with them but at least would keep away the small time thief - most home burgs are done by small time thieves with no idea just smash and grab and get out as fast as they can. With a bit of engineering skills you can make your pc a pain in the butt for a burglar to steal. Chain it to a heavy object, like in my home the pc is chained to our oak table which weighs a ton takes 3 of us to move it. Ive never been burgled but if it ever happened I would be very upset if my pc got stolen take the tv the couch the fridge but don't take my computer.

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#468260 12-May-2011 13:06

Beccara: So your saying I should be able to walk into any cop shop in the country, hand over a print out from "Super Secret Tracking App" saying my stuff is here and expect them to go raid the place?

The cop you spoke to was right, the data is questionable and I hope they wouldn't act upon that information

This is quite an important point.

This kind of thing can and will be used to grief people.

I think it's good you have to have strong enough evidence to convince them to look into this.

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#486068 26-Jun-2011 14:41

What about this story? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10734627&ref=rss

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#486110 26-Jun-2011 16:05

freitasm: What about this story? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10734627&ref=rss

A big plus one for Police having access to this sort of technology. A lot of people expect to report their car missing, have police on the doorstep 10 minutes later to take a report and have the car found and towed home for free by dinner time. Sadly there are just not the resources for this sort of result without people providing valuable information and resources themselves.

Would like everyone to pay attention to this line:

"The three offenders were later found with the help of a "resourceful" police communicator."

Most Police Communicators are non-sworn employees who play a big part in the day to day activities and results of the Police.

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#486189 26-Jun-2011 20:25

kiwitrc: Give them the choice, either they sort it out or John Campbell or Mark Sainsbury will. Also let the Minister know what you intend to do.

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#486190 26-Jun-2011 20:27

Ragnor:
Beccara: So your saying I should be able to walk into any cop shop in the country, hand over a print out from "Super Secret Tracking App" saying my stuff is here and expect them to go raid the place?

The cop you spoke to was right, the data is questionable and I hope they wouldn't act upon that information

This is quite an important point.

This kind of thing can and will be used to grief people.

I think it's good you have to have strong enough evidence to convince them to look into this.

Such evidence should at least be reasonable grounds to investigate the matter. If it's found to be fake evidence...prosecute the people who put it forward.

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