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  #2453828 3-Apr-2020 14:50
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At least someone had the sense to ensure Nespresso capsules were essential from day one! 😁








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  #2453852 3-Apr-2020 15:12
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antonknee: [snip]  From a transactional point of view, we have to go right down to an individual item level to do it - can’t just be set for a group of items based on a category like ‘cellphones’.

 

@antonknee why is this? Using the example I noticed above where some models of iphone at JB HiFi are essential and others aren't, I would have thought that any cellphone (regardless of brand, OS etc) would reasonably be classified as essential. It would be interesting to know how you determine what is and isn't.


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  #2453877 3-Apr-2020 15:38
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antonknee: [snip]  From a transactional point of view, we have to go right down to an individual item level to do it - can’t just be set for a group of items based on a category like ‘cellphones’.


@antonknee why is this? Using the example I noticed above where some models of iphone at JB HiFi are essential and others aren't, I would have thought that any cellphone (regardless of brand, OS etc) would reasonably be classified as essential. It would be interesting to know how you determine what is and isn't.



For us it’s a system limitation. We just can’t set ability to transact higher than at an item level. We are able to set a bunch of items at once via uploading a CSV. So in a sense we can do an entire category by extracting every item in that category to CSV, changing the flag, then uploading the CSV again - but very manual. Our issue with this then becomes sometimes items sit in the wrong category (usually due to human error at some point) so even doing this doesn’t capture every item. To make things more difficult, the categories on our website don’t align to the categories we use internally on our actual system. So just because it appears in ‘cellphones’ on the website doesn’t mean it’s listed as ‘cellphones’ on our internal system where these changes get made.

Note I don’t work for JB so I’m unsure how their system is set up, but I did used to work for Noel Leeming and we ran into the same sorts of problems as I described above there. That was a while ago though so things may have changed.

I’m also thinking it could be to do with the supplier of the handset too or any number of factors - eg when I was at Noels, the Vodafone/2degrees/Spark/Skinny handsets were all in different categories on our internal system despite all appearing online under ‘Mobile Phones’.



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  #2453881 3-Apr-2020 15:43
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Oh sorry in terms of how we (not JB Hifi or similar) are determining if an item should be included is essential is a bit airy-fairy really. We are basically considering whether the item could be lived without or worked around for four-six weeks, with a focus on things that are important to maintaining life, health and safety. Also in reference to broad guidance given by the government and MBIE - essentials being things like whiteware or heaters.

Ultimately the government hasn’t given us an item-by-item or category-by-category checklist, but we did have to present an overview of what we were considering essential and how we intended to meet the requirements around transacting in a contactless manner.

It is a bit open to interpretation and also quite fluid. Since we started working on it our own definition of essential has changed, as people internally look at different categories and items and make the argument about how essential something is.

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  #2453886 3-Apr-2020 15:55
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At briscoes a spiraliser is considered essential but a bread maker is not




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#2453900 3-Apr-2020 15:59
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Luckily fags have been declared an essential item during lockdown.


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  #2454677 4-Apr-2020 22:32
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DarthKermit:

 

Luckily fags have been declared an essential item during lockdown.

 

 

That and vaping. I think if either of those were unable to be purchased we may see an increase in murder statistics!


 
 
 

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  #2454833 5-Apr-2020 10:22
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Recently discovered that AA will replace a car battery as an essential item.  Wait time and price both slightly over the odds but better than being permanently stranded.

 

Which leads me to wonder - how long will cars survive being used once or twice per week for 1-3km trip to the supermarket and back before batteries die or worse problems happen?  I may invest in a small solar panel and controller once the current lockdown is over - I'm thinking even a 50w panel would be enough to keep two car batteries in good condition if alternated on a daily basis


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  #2454862 5-Apr-2020 10:56
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I have been wanting to get a few things, cheap pod coffee machine died just before the lockdown, so having been having French press instead. And I'd also like a decent microphone for the laptop, but ideally one for my camera as I want my stills camera as the webcam (my Dell webcam which I'd never used before, is located just above the keyboard), so I thought I'd be cheeky and ask PBTech if I could get the Rode one I wanted. The online chat person very helpfully pointed an essential microphone which was a USB plug in version. So I'll hold off in the meantime :)


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  #2454888 5-Apr-2020 11:36
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shk292:

 

Recently discovered that AA will replace a car battery as an essential item.  Wait time and price both slightly over the odds but better than being permanently stranded.

 

Which leads me to wonder - how long will cars survive being used once or twice per week for 1-3km trip to the supermarket and back before batteries die or worse problems happen?  I may invest in a small solar panel and controller once the current lockdown is over - I'm thinking even a 50w panel would be enough to keep two car batteries in good condition if alternated on a daily basis

 

 

I've been running the engine for 15 minutes or so after each supermarket visit, & doing a few laps around the block.  Another thing to think of is not to let your petrol go stale.


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  #2454904 5-Apr-2020 11:44
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I’ve got my cars on a CTEK trickle charger. The dance to swap cars around is pretty amusing (three cars, one charger).


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  #2454930 5-Apr-2020 12:10
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shk292:

 

Recently discovered that AA will replace a car battery as an essential item.  Wait time and price both slightly over the odds but better than being permanently stranded.

 

Which leads me to wonder - how long will cars survive being used once or twice per week for 1-3km trip to the supermarket and back before batteries die or worse problems happen?  I may invest in a small solar panel and controller once the current lockdown is over - I'm thinking even a 50w panel would be enough to keep two car batteries in good condition if alternated on a daily basis

 

 

Just take the neg terminal off the battery when you arent using it for extended periods of time. You don't want to not drive it for a long long time if it's outside, though - things like brakes will seize up and cost some unnecessary coin to repair


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  #2454975 5-Apr-2020 13:19
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snnet:

 

Just take the neg terminal off the battery when you arent using it for extended periods of time. You don't want to not drive it for a long long time if it's outside, though - things like brakes will seize up and cost some unnecessary coin to repair

 

 

I'd rather not disconnect because past experience shows that can trigger anti-theft devices in stereos etc.  Not talking months at a time here, just a reduction in use like we're currently seeing.  Will give it a good blowout on the motorway on the way to the supermarket today


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  #2454981 5-Apr-2020 13:24
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shk292:

 

Recently discovered that AA will replace a car battery as an essential item.  Wait time and price both slightly over the odds but better than being permanently stranded.

 

Which leads me to wonder - how long will cars survive being used once or twice per week for 1-3km trip to the supermarket and back before batteries die or worse problems happen?  I may invest in a small solar panel and controller once the current lockdown is over - I'm thinking even a 50w panel would be enough to keep two car batteries in good condition if alternated on a daily basis

 

 

Had that problem today car normally runs all week, couldn’t start it had to take battery out and put it on charge . I have to leave it on street now to get our newer car out the garage. AA has done 2 other call outs in the street today as well


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  #2455356 5-Apr-2020 20:34
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With the barber's closed, wish hair clippers was classed as an essential item. Nearly all places online it is classed as not essential.

I don't think my boys trust my scissor skills.




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