gzt: Does NZ still manufacture food glass? Visy Glass maybe..

i don't know, i'm not that far into it. but plastic containers some are made here and some are imported. 

gzt: Does NZ still manufacture food glass? Visy Glass maybe..

Yep Visy still manufactures locally. Must still be competitive too - if there were a cheaper imported option, companies would have jumped at it already. 

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Handle9:

 

It's hard to see what the advantage would be in doing that. It's double packing rather than just packing at source and then distributing on the ground.

 

The advantage would be not shipping glass.  Fill a container to weight capacity with mostly the product not glass. Of course if you're importing the jars too, that doesn't work.

Some NZ wine companies export in bulk for in market bottling.

tweake:

 

work i s starting to get into food packing at the moment. its not easy. lots of tech and you have to get it right. failure is very costly. 

 

there was a beer company which had a canning problem on one of their batchs. the recall sunk the company.

 

I've worked in that space a little too.  Ishida weigh heads, automatic bagging, Marel gear as well.  I really enjoyed the tech aspects of it.  Getting 'giveaway' low, but compliant etc.

I imagine toll packing business could be vulnerable.   Especially if they have low margins, and no indemnity insurance for recalls.   QA is obviously essential too (but expensive).

Handle9:

 

MikeAqua:

 

It would be sensible to ship in bulk and pack into retail jars locally.  That's a highly automatable process.

 

 

It's hard to see what the advantage would be in doing that. It's double packing rather than just packing at source and then distributing on the ground.

 

It's an interaction between distance to market (shipping finished goods is much more expensive than semi-finished / bulk) and economies of scale (you want to minimise packaging facilities which have fixed overheads and complexity in the supply chain). Management will be going over the sums regularly. 

Price of coffee is getting up there nowadays. Lately I've been enjoying $2 coffee from our local Circle K store. Do like the $7 barista made ones from the cafe near work, but Mrs and I did a budget over the weekend and its $2 ones from now on, until oil prices come down.

MikeAqua:

 

Handle9:

 

It's hard to see what the advantage would be in doing that. It's double packing rather than just packing at source and then distributing on the ground.

 

 

The advantage would be not shipping glass.  Fill a container to weight capacity with mostly the product not glass. Of course if you're importing the jars too, that doesn't work.

 

Some NZ wine companies export in bulk for in market bottling.

 

there is a lot of reasons for packing locally or not.

often its cheaper to pack overseas. but it increases the risk of fraud ie they mix in cheaper product. so packing at country of origin is a way to help avoid that. so we import bottles, fill them, then send them back.

some industries even suffer from repacking, where they tip out each bottle, water it down and repack it with new lids etc.

There are instructions on the container on how to make instant coffee.

Although about while ago I was having an issue with some coffee granules not dissolving quickly.  After phoning  said coffee company, it turns out there is quite an art to making a good instant.  

One may find the lower temperature is better with regards to aroma as its already been brewed (as compared to doing a normal pour-over). 

For instant I always do it milk first, otherwise it ends up gross. Yeah, its a lot more stirring but tastes drinkable.

richms:

 

For instant I always do it milk first, otherwise it ends up gross. Yeah, its a lot more stirring but tastes drinkable.

 

This (or cold water if you like it black) is the secret to instant coffee.

Try it - you'll be amazed.

richms:

 

For instant I always do it milk first, otherwise it ends up gross. Yeah, its a lot more stirring but tastes drinkable.

 

I'm a MIF person too.  I learned that from my first skipper.