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#1266836 24-Mar-2015 14:42

KiwiNZ:
andrew027: Grammar: The difference between knowing your sh!t and knowing you're sh!t.

I have an associate with a PhD who uses bad grammar.

We all use it, when we try to interpret bad grammar ;)

(And if there is anything wrong in my sentence: I will hereby invoke my "english isn't my first language" clause ;)

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#1266875 24-Mar-2015 15:11

One of my pet peeves is when people use "then" instead of "than," e.g. "This one is better then that one." Seriously!?

It wasn't all that long ago that proper grammar and punctuation were taught in schools. What on earth are they teaching these days, if it's all gone out the window so badly?

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#1266882 24-Mar-2015 15:17

KiwiNZ:
andrew027: Grammar: The difference between knowing your sh!t and knowing you're sh!t.

I have an associate with a PhD who uses bad grammar.

So he knows his sh!t about something, but he knows sh!t about grammar.

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#1266889 24-Mar-2015 15:21

andrew027:
KiwiNZ:
andrew027: Grammar: The difference between knowing your sh!t and knowing you're sh!t.

I have an associate with a PhD who uses bad grammar.

So he knows his sh!t about something, but he knows sh!t about grammar.

my point is that sometimes the use of bad grammar is not a result of not knowing sh!t but is a result of a disability or ESL etc

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#1266913 24-Mar-2015 15:32

freitasm: Depends on context. In this discussion, probably not. In a political discussion, most likely yes.

And that would be either a permanent ban or a week holiday depending on user's history.

Youse is givin away holidays?

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#1266922 24-Mar-2015 15:40

KiwiNZ:

my point is that sometimes the use of bad grammar is not a result of not knowing sh!t but is a result of a disability or ESL etc

In my experience, many people for whom English is not a first language have better knowledge of English grammar than native speakers. These seems particularly true for Germans and Scandawegians. And many people with learning disabilities put in extra effort and also know more.

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#1266936 24-Mar-2015 15:54

Glassboy:
KiwiNZ:

my point is that sometimes the use of bad grammar is not a result of not knowing sh!t but is a result of a disability or ESL etc

In my experience, many people for whom English is not a first language have better knowledge of English grammar than native speakers. These seems particularly true for Germans and Scandawegians. And many people with learning disabilities put in extra effort and also know more.

Agreed, however the translation can make it a tad difficult to understand. I read the meaning not the words. If the task I am doing requires me to assess or rate the words then I read the words if that makes sense.

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#1267110 24-Mar-2015 20:23

As a professional writer I have never understood how the standard of grammar and spelling can be so poor in this country. I was astounded when I first came here. Even official government documents are often riddled with basic errors, never mind newspapers and magazines. Some of this can perhaps be attributed to the large population of immigrants who speak English as a second language, but often even native-born Kiwis are just as bad. I can only conclude that there is a serious problem with the educational system here. It is perhaps worth mentioning that Geekzone manages to maintain a higher standard in this regard than any other public forum I have observed in New Zealand. There are also plenty of mistakes to be found here, of course, but it is nowhere near as bad as some other places.

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#1267480 25-Mar-2015 12:48

What about all those people who title a thread with something like "Why is it..."? That gets my goat too.

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#1267482 25-Mar-2015 12:55

Satch: What about all those people who title a thread with something like "Why is it..."? That gets my goat too.

You mean "Gets up your goat".

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#1267484 25-Mar-2015 12:56

Rikkitic: As a professional writer I have never understood how the standard of grammar and spelling can be so poor in this country. I was astounded when I first came here. Even official government documents are often riddled with basic errors, never mind newspapers and magazines. Some of this can perhaps be attributed to the large population of immigrants who speak English as a second language, but often even native-born Kiwis are just as bad. I can only conclude that there is a serious problem with the educational system here. It is perhaps worth mentioning that Geekzone manages to maintain a higher standard in this regard than any other public forum I have observed in New Zealand. There are also plenty of mistakes to be found here, of course, but it is nowhere near as bad as some other places.

I admit to having poor grammar. I also get hung on words for example two that often do my head in is "affect" and "effect", and I passed English with very high marks.

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#1267487 25-Mar-2015 13:01

Glassboy:
Satch: What about all those people who title a thread with something like "Why is it..."? That gets my goat too.

You mean "Gets up your goat".

Nope, it gets my goat.

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#1267489 25-Mar-2015 13:02

Satch:
Glassboy:
Satch: What about all those people who title a thread with something like "Why is it..."? That gets my goat too.

You mean "Gets up your goat".

Nope, it gets my goat.

Poor goat 😜

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#1267504 25-Mar-2015 13:08

"There ain't no lovin' like marryin' your cousin."

Vs:

"There isn't any loving like marrying your cousin."

Yes, the latter phrase is good grammar; but the former phrase be a lot funnier.

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#1267562 25-Mar-2015 13:44

There's a NZ expression "Not having a bar of it".

It's a idiom peculiar to here (at least, I never heard it even once in 37 years in the UK before I moved so I don't think it originated there) and I cannot for the life of me figure out what it originated from. Soap? Chocolate? Gold?

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