TheMantis:

Geektastic:

TheMantis:

Demeter:

Fred99: Even if more evidence comes which contradicts such past "wisdom" - don't expect rapid change.  "Experts" who've held a strong position don't like to be told that they've spent their entire careers being wrong.  Science is full of examples of this.

I know what you mean. I've lost enough weight during the last 4 months for people to comment. I avoid talking about what I've been eating though, because it always sparks a slew of ignorant advice that has no scientific basis.

Btw, if anybody is particularly picky about beef, I can highly recommend Green Meadows Beef - their online shop is super efficient and the beef is absolutely top notch Angus, perfectly packed for transport. We won't buy beef from anywhere else now.

A massive +1 to Green Meadows Beef. I've been buying almost all my beef (other than a few ultra premium cuts) from them for the past 18 months or so. The quality is superb, ordering is easy, and packaging and delivery is first rate. The price is also very competitive. The standard of meat generally available in NZ is just appalling, with the worst offenders being the supermarket duopoly. We shouldn't put up with having our best produce sent overseas leaving the rubbish dumped through supermarkets and less than reputable butchers.

Silver Fern Farms beef and lamb is also excellent and quite widely available in supermarkets.

This is true, however, SFF is a branded product aimed at a more discerning market segment (and priced accordingly). Generic supermarket beef is generally of very poor quality relative to the overall quality of NZ production. Countdown NI beef is pre-packaged at a plant in Auckland, pumped full of preservative gas, and then shipped out to various stores. While this is permissible it's not how I want to purchase beef.