Master Filter and Kristil Patch Panel

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darkasdes2

428 posts

Ultimate Geek

#143699 24-Apr-2014 08:12

Hi All

My parents have a Kristil Patch Panel (It has the cables running from the panel connected via RJ45 plugs rather being directly terminated into the panel)
http://www.kristil.co.nz/assets/Downloads/e-merge-phone-boardspeck-sheet.pdf

I have got a master filter, the demac is connected to the orange/white pair, router to green/white pair, and the phone wiring to the white/blue pair.

The patch panel has some DP switches so when you have the ph line plugged into the ph port of the patch panel you can flick the switch to get the ph line patched through to that particular port.

When I connect the master filter to the patch panel, the phone line works but the router wont sync (Thats the green/white pair patched into the patch panel via the RJ45 port). I know that the master filter is not faulty as if I connect the modem output of the filter into the phone port of the panel and the DSL will sync up.

I have the green wire crimped into pin 4 and the white wire crimped into pin 5 of the RJ 45 plug

I can't work out what I am doing wrong.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

darkasdes2

428 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1030272 24-Apr-2014 08:13

Also, its Cat5e wiring

shall0w

80 posts

Master Geek

#1030275 24-Apr-2014 08:21

It doesn't sound like you have the master filter in line - you will have 3 pairs on the filter and you need input, then one output to the phone and one to the modem.

InstallerUFB

840 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1030286 24-Apr-2014 08:40

darkasdes2: Hi All

My parents have a Kristil Patch Panel (It has the cables running from the panel connected via RJ45 plugs rather being directly terminated into the panel)
http://www.kristil.co.nz/assets/Downloads/e-merge-phone-boardspeck-sheet.pdf

I have got a master filter, the demac is connected to the orange/white pair, router to green/white pair, and the phone wiring to the white/blue pair.

The patch panel has some DP switches so when you have the ph line plugged into the ph port of the patch panel you can flick the switch to get the ph line patched through to that particular port.

When I connect the master filter to the patch panel, the phone line works but the router wont sync (Thats the green/white pair patched into the patch panel via the RJ45 port). I know that the master filter is not faulty as if I connect the modem output of the filter into the phone port of the panel and the DSL will sync up.

I have the green wire crimped into pin 4 and the white wire crimped into pin 5 of the RJ 45 plug ?

I can't work out what I am doing wrong.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Unfortunatly the spec sheet is very light on details (infact vertualy none) but I can maybe gather from the poor discription that there are two RJ45 Sockets for the possible 2 incoming lines - in your case you would connect the blue/white from the splitter to one (via a RJ45 Plug) and the green/white from the spliter to the other (via another RJ45 plug) - does this sort of sound right?

None of the docs on their site actualy explans the pannels operation so can you take a pic of what the top of the panel actualy looks like (need more details) and repost ? This would be helpfull for your case and others in the future

darkasdes2

428 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1030311 24-Apr-2014 09:10

Hi all

Hope these pics help

darkasdes2

428 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1030326 24-Apr-2014 09:25

So on the master filter, I have RJ45 socket on the orange/white pair so it makes it easy to plug the demac as it has a RJ45 plug on it, and 2 RJ45 plugs for the blue/white pair and green/white pair both crimped to pins 4 and 5.

When I plug the phone line into the phone port, the ph line works and when I plug in the green/white pair to the required port of the patch panel for the router, I cant get the router to sync.

If I plug the green/white pair to the phone port, the modem will sync up

Do I have the green/white wires on the right pins of the rj45 plug?

InstallerUFB

840 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1030416 24-Apr-2014 09:59

darkasdes2: So on the master filter, I have RJ45 socket on the orange/white pair so it makes it easy to plug the demac as it has a RJ45 plug on it, and 2 RJ45 plugs for the blue/white pair and green/white pair both crimped to pins 4 and 5.

When I plug the phone line into the phone port, the ph line works and when I plug in the green/white pair to the required port of the patch panel for the router, I cant get the router to sync.

If I plug the green/white pair to the phone port, the modem will sync up

Do I have the green/white wires on the right pins of the rj45 plug?

Thats the exact question that I was looking to try and answer -

haveing a look at the pics there appears to be only one socket on the pannel for the input of the two possible phone lines - The first line being on pins 4+5 and the second being on ?+?

After typeing up a big discription of what you can to to trace out the pins - I have deleted it as ive come up with a quick solution

My next asumption is that the router is not being installed in the same place as the pannel?

1. Plug your splitter into the the incoming line as you have suggested
2. Plug the blue/white pair into the incomeing line and switch the DIPs on the outputs to line1 as required for POTS service
3. Select to output that the router is to be attached to (eg output 11) - Switch the DIPs on that output to PABX extn and plug the green/white pair into the PABX extn socket (in my eg PABX 11).

How's that ?

darkasdes2

428 posts

Ultimate Geek

#1030424 24-Apr-2014 10:10

Yes the router is in the office to help with the wifi coverage

AND

yes that did the trick

Thanks InstallerUFB