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shermanp

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#175202 21-Jun-2015 14:40
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I just thought I'd post this as a bit of a counter to the "NZ has 3rd world internetz" posts that so often seem to crop up around here.

Currently I am on holiday in the US. Land of the fast, unlimited internet etc etc... I wish.

I'm staying at a place in Jersey City, just across the river from Manhattan, so not exactly rural America. It is Saturday evening. I have not been able to watch youtube at anything higher than 480p without wild quality changes. Same with other video streaming, I had to give up in the end.

I downloaded Calibre ebook manager. I had to try several times until I finally got it (and forget loading web pages while doing so). Download speed varied from 1000KB/s (briefly) to 0KB/s, and a lot of the time was in double digits.

The internet provider? Comcast cable. The wifi modem/router is a POS that will drop wireless connections at the drop of a hat, and then can take up to 10 minutes to get internet working again.


The VDSL2+ that I get from Spark is light years ahead by comparison. Ditto my parents UFB connection. I miss you Spark and Snap!


Believe me, NZ does not have "third world internet". Not by a long stretch.

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  #1328711 21-Jun-2015 15:34
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I stayed in the Bay Area, right across the road from the eBay headquarters. The maximum speed I got was 7Mbps on DSL.

But to be fair, USA is a big country.



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  #1328713 21-Jun-2015 15:36
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If the wifi is dropping then that isn't necessarily the ISP at fault. Shared spectrum and all that.




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  #1328738 21-Jun-2015 16:45
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I wonder what results speedtests give? When I stayed in America (in the middle of the Twin Cities in Minnesota) I'd regularly get around 23 Mb/s.



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  #1328935 22-Jun-2015 00:41
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quickymart: I wonder what results speedtests give? When I stayed in America (in the middle of the Twin Cities in Minnesota) I'd regularly get around 23 Mb/s.


Sunday, 8:30 am

Comcast speedtest

Last evening it was going at around 4mbps, but the ping was in the 40's


Caution: speedtest results over 2.4GHz Wireless

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  #1328936 22-Jun-2015 00:47
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Hah. So the 5GHz wireless uses the same password, I thought maybe 2.4GHz was the culprit.

Sure enough...
Comcast at 5GHz wireless


Obviously, in the city, 2.4GHz is almost unusable.

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  #1328937 22-Jun-2015 03:01
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It's nothing to do with the size of the country, it's all about political dysfunction. If the government won't regulate, ISPs won't invest. The NZ govt regulated, so we have excellent internet and a vibrant ISP market.

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  #1328966 22-Jun-2015 08:31
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This makes me think of this TechRadar article I was reading this morning.  Some humourous analogies, but makes a reasonable point.

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  #1328977 22-Jun-2015 08:55
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shermanp: Hah. So the 5GHz wireless uses the same password, I thought maybe 2.4GHz was the culprit.

Sure enough...
Comcast at 5GHz wireless


Obviously, in the city, 2.4GHz is almost unusable.



So not so much a provider/Comcast problem, more a '2.4GHz is overcrowded' problem. What speeds do you get with a wired connection?

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  #1329125 22-Jun-2015 11:39
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Go for cable internet if possible and get a DOCSIS3 Motorola cable modem and bam 200Mb download.
Most xDSL exchange/cabnite in US just too far away for any decent speed, and AT&T it's on the edge of killing copper line.

Also if you have DOCSIS3 modem don't worry about the peck time slow down, with muti-channel on that modem slow down will have less impact on your over all net useage unless you consistently running out of 200Mb wink

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  #1329129 22-Jun-2015 11:49
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Always speed test plugged in with a cable. Wifi is always going to have some kind of performance impact, and often quite a dramatic one as you have shown




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  #1329170 22-Jun-2015 12:20
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shermanp: Hah. So the 5GHz wireless uses the same password, I thought maybe 2.4GHz was the culprit.

Sure enough...
Comcast at 5GHz wireless


Obviously, in the city, 2.4GHz is almost unusable.


Auckland CBD is the same, 2.4Ghz is pretty much unusable.

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  #1329332 22-Jun-2015 15:14
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Publius:

Auckland CBD is the same, 2.4Ghz is pretty much unusable.


Even bluetooth has problems not dropping out around the CBD in parts. Wifi from a portable hotspot to a tablet on 2.4 is barely workable with loads of dropouts. Not sure how many are interference and how many are people spoofing deauth etc, but 5GHz is fine, if you are able to get something to share internet on it.




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