WorldNet Services (ISP) discussion request removal

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#73721 20-Dec-2010 18:26

I am sorry folks involved in a recent discussion about WorldNet Services (ISP) in New Zealand, from January 2010.

A WorldNet Services (ISP) director contacted me today and asked to have the discussion removed, saying "We came across a post that contains baseless assertions and defaming our company. Please remove the post immediately. If you have any question please contact me on [number removed]

In that discussion the user in question described (from his point of view) certain events involving WorldNet Services (ISP).

As requested by WorldNet Services (ISP) director I have now removed the post where WorldNet Services (ISP) was named.

If you are looking for a New Zealand ISP that participates here on Geekzone here is a list: 2degrees, Orcon, Slingshot, Snap Internet, Telecom, TelstraClear, Vodafone, Woosh, WorldxChange. Forgive me if I left any behind.

In these times when companies are engaging more and more in social media and other public facing activitites, it's interesting seeing companies don't try to engage the community. These are golden opportunities to participate and get things turned around.

UPDATE: To make it clear, at no moment WorldNet Services (ISP) threatened us. The email we received is basically the one quote reproduced above. The following discussion is about the merits of having a discussion removed from a historical perspective.

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#419608 20-Dec-2010 18:36

Wow. Did the post in question actually have content that was illegal (dematory?)

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#419610 20-Dec-2010 18:40

Kinda makes their promised VDSL service worthless if they resort to this sort of childish behavior when someone says something that they dont like.

Are they going to cut your internet off if you use it to call them a bunch of useless whatever or describe how lousy the service that you feel you get is?

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#419621 20-Dec-2010 18:53

Quick, better delete the worldnet forum!

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#419629 20-Dec-2010 19:10

um i know dmca is for copyright take downs but what lawful request do isps have to give you to take down a post? broadcasting standards for tv, advertisement authority for ads(voluntary) but what is for websites?

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#419630 20-Dec-2010 19:12

The DMCA does not apply here as it's a U.S. Law.

You obviously have no experience/knowledge of New Zealand defamation laws...

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#419631 20-Dec-2010 19:15

The Google Related Links box at the bottom of the page contains a link to the deleted post. Hahahaha.

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#419634 20-Dec-2010 19:19

VinLew: The Google Related Links box at the bottom of the page contains a link to the deleted post. Hahahaha.

That's pretty lol! Pity there's no google cache of the page.

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#419636 20-Dec-2010 19:21

That will disappear when Google notices the discussion is gone.

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#419637 20-Dec-2010 19:22

kyhwana2:
VinLew: The Google Related Links box at the bottom of the page contains a link to the deleted post. Hahahaha.

That's pretty lol! Pity there's no google cache of the page.

Yea, even the page preview shows the Content Removed page

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#419641 20-Dec-2010 19:30

Ah yes... freadumb of speach here is a bit weak. Oh well. :)

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#419643 20-Dec-2010 19:34

Remember, Freedom of Speech (TM) is a political right, not something guaranteed in a private setting...

It exists to allow people to express their feelings towards strong forces (government for example) without fear of retaliation.

In a private environment it's a completely different thing...

In any case this is not a case of Freedom of Speech, but a test case for crap New Zealand defamation laws.

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#419657 20-Dec-2010 19:51

I didn't read the post but can assume it was about poor speeds? Well, they have very poor speeds. A discussion about that is legitimate. Obviously you want to keep good relations and maintain integrity of Geekzone, but I personally think it should have stayed.

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#419665 20-Dec-2010 20:13

To clarify my post, such allegations against WorldNet would only be justified if the issues were true (IF the topic was about speed issues it would be legitimate, since it's widely known to be true).

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#419668 20-Dec-2010 20:18

There was more to it I believe, statements made from a user about how how he was treated when he went to their offices to complain, one side of the story only and pretty messy if I remember righty so possibly getting into shakey ground.

Yes I am a employee of WxC (My Profile) ... but I do have my own opinions as well

https://www.facebook.com/wxccommunications

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