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#2163233 18-Jan-2019 14:43

jonb:

So have the spooks had a quiet word with Chorus to dump Huawei?

(Assuming Huawei make the current ONT)

I think only LFCs like UFF and Enable use Huawei ONTs, the current gen Chorus ONTs were Alcatel made.

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#2163235 18-Jan-2019 14:43

ResponseMediaNZ: The virtual residential gateway (RGW) will be an interesting on as well. does the customer get a login to manage their side of the RGW or will it all be at RSP level.

I've found a couple of forum posts from India - where they seem to use the same ONT - where people are discussing logging into a Web interface to change some settings. So it looks like it's customer-configurable in the "usual way".

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#2163251 18-Jan-2019 14:49

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sbiddle:

Anybody know what the wireless specs are? A single antenna suggests it's only a single chain device.

802.11b/g

The dude at Chorus who came up with the idea of tacking "ruggedised microduct" to fences said that b/g will be totally sweet.

i recall ax being thrown around, can't find the docs to confirm it though.

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#2163257 18-Jan-2019 15:00

hio77:

chevrolux:

sbiddle:

Anybody know what the wireless specs are? A single antenna suggests it's only a single chain device.

802.11b/g

The dude at Chorus who came up with the idea of tacking "ruggedised microduct" to fences said that b/g will be totally sweet.

i recall ax being thrown around, can't find the docs to confirm it though.

In light of the development of ax and only a couple of brands of APs on the market so far (not to mention these aren't final spec) I'd suggest there is pretty much zero chance of that

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#2163262 18-Jan-2019 15:04

https://fccid.io/SFK-140W

https://fccid.io/SFK-140W/Users-Manual/User-Manual-1-3769368
Looks like its got AC
 2.4G(802.11b/g/n) WIFI  5 GHz(802.11ac) WIFI

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#2163263 18-Jan-2019 15:05

sbiddle:

hio77:

chevrolux:

sbiddle:

Anybody know what the wireless specs are? A single antenna suggests it's only a single chain device.

802.11b/g

The dude at Chorus who came up with the idea of tacking "ruggedised microduct" to fences said that b/g will be totally sweet.

i recall ax being thrown around, can't find the docs to confirm it though.

In light of the development of ax and only a couple of brands of APs on the market so far (not to mention these aren't final spec) I'd suggest there is pretty much zero chance of that

that's why i say thrown around ;)

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#2163284 18-Jan-2019 15:44

Will everyone be progressively upgraded/changed over to these new ONTs? or just new installs?

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#2163286 18-Jan-2019 15:48

WOAH

A new box to convert light to electrical!

I hope there's crowd control in place for when we camp out the night before.

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#2163365 18-Jan-2019 17:12

Hmm, it would be good to see:

dimensions old vs new (basic HxWxD) of box

ditto wall power supply, and if any changes have been made to the power plug to the unit (is it still an RJ12 special?). 18W draw though... geez...

internal specs. It may be just a media converter, but cost savings have been made somewhere, and the fact that the old box is being kept for bitstream 3 says to me some features are definetly missing.

It's good progress, the wifi is probably to be expected but personally has no value for me. Same with the single ATA port, reality appears that noone seemed too fussed about driving the ability to turn on port 2.

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#2163407 18-Jan-2019 19:07

So will this handle the upcoming 10Gb service, or will that be another device?

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#2163640 19-Jan-2019 11:55

As far as I am aware, this will only be for new Bitstream 2 connections

Bitstream3 will retain the old ONT

They will not be replacing existing ONTs (the cost does not make sense)

Day 1 they are not offering any of the new features like RGW or Wifi, but have talked about this coming later. Down the track if they are offering this I am not sure if there will be a swap out option for the ISP who wants to use these features.

I assume for faults they will keep the existing model of ONT if it needs to be replaced, rather than having to remove it all off the wall and fit a new one.

There are some small changes required to support the ATA voice port on the newer ONT as well

This ONT will not do 10GPON either, there is a different ONT for that. It uses a different db to GPON, so they can actually co-exist on the same fibre.

There was a demo at a Chorus presentation a while ago with a GPON and 10GPON feeding into the same splitter, then it being split out to all the end customers. It basically means they can deploy 10GPON with very little work and labour, connect the new 10GPON into the splitter and replace the ONT.

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#2165901 23-Jan-2019 01:16

These look sleek but we are already on our third gen 2 since October 2016 LOL!

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#2166338 23-Jan-2019 15:20

Hey everyone,

good discussion here, I'll pick out some of the key comments/questions....

ResponseMediaNZ:
The virtual residential gateway (RGW) will be an interesting on as well. does the customer get a login to manage their side of the RGW or will it all be at RSP level.

Its not actually "virtual" dependent on what you call a virtual RGW.
The ONT has the capability of a built-in RGW which can then be managed via TR-069 (RSP) or a web gui (customer), just like other RGWs.

sbiddle:
Anybody know what the wireless specs are? A single antenna suggests it's only a single chain device.

Wireless 2.4 GHz 802.11 b/g/n 2x2 MIMO
Wireless 5 GHz 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO

Behodar:
I've found a couple of forum posts from India - where they seem to use the same ONT - where people are discussing logging into a Web interface to change some settings. So it looks like it's customer-configurable in the "usual way".

Yes, Bharti use the same device. The are vertically integrated and have the RGW feature enabled. We won't, at least not initially.

DjShadow:
Will everyone be progressively upgraded/changed over to these new ONTs? or just new installs?

Just new installs

antoniosk:
dimensions old vs new (basic HxWxD) of box

170mm x 125mm x 36mm for the new ONT.
172mm x 124mm x 36mm for the old ONT.

antoniosk:
ditto wall power supply, and if any changes have been made to the power plug to the unit (is it still an RJ12 special?). 18W draw though... geez...

I dont have the size of the PSU sorry, slightly different form factor, slim enough to fit 2 side-by-side.
It was never an RJ12, I guess hyou mean the mini-molex - no, it is now a barrel connector.

antoniosk:
internal specs. It may be just a media converter, but cost savings have been made somewhere, and the fact that the old box is being kept for bitstream 3 says to me some features are definetly missing.

It's a bit more than a media converter :)
the NZ UFB services are pretty unique, and this ONT doesnt support the full VLAN transparency required for Bitstream3/3a. It has a more powerful CPU and more RAM than the current ONT.

coffeebaron:
So will this handle the upcoming 10Gb service, or will that be another device?

No, definitely a new device. the trial will probably use a XS-250WX-A

atomeara:
Day 1 they are not offering any of the new features like RGW or Wifi, but have talked about this coming later. Down the track if they are offering this I am not sure if there will be a swap out option for the ISP who wants to use these features.

Correct. If an RSP orders a service which needs a different ONT model, we'll have to swap it (much like the SFP ONT today)

atomeara:
I assume for faults they will keep the existing model of ONT if it needs to be replaced, rather than having to remove it all off the wall and fit a new one.

No, the new ONT will become the standard for new installs and fault replacements. We have a nice simple process to swap the backing plate for the new one.

atomeara:
There are some small changes required to support the ATA voice port on the newer ONT as well

Yeah, nothing too major, it is backwards compatible and no SIP changes, only TR-069, but this is all RSP stuff that most people wont care about.

WHEW!

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#2166364 23-Jan-2019 15:54

BMarquis:

sbiddle:
Anybody know what the wireless specs are? A single antenna suggests it's only a single chain device.

Wireless 2.4 GHz 802.11 b/g/n 2x2 MIMO
Wireless 5 GHz 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO

gosh, only 2x2? may aswell limit it to only 30/10 plans :P

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#2166677 24-Jan-2019 08:40

hio77:

BMarquis:

sbiddle:
Anybody know what the wireless specs are? A single antenna suggests it's only a single chain device.

Wireless 2.4 GHz 802.11 b/g/n 2x2 MIMO
Wireless 5 GHz 802.11ac 2x2 MIMO

gosh, only 2x2? may aswell limit it to only 30/10 plans :P

WiFi should be disabled on plans greater than said.

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