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#3401063 8-Aug-2025 15:17

Why wait for them to deplete tho?

Just have both options available to install and people that like to have a box not attached to their house installed in their living room can get the freestander, and the mountable smaller one can go in installations where there is a small comms cupboard like the TCF install guidelines said that new builds should have in them.

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#3401118 8-Aug-2025 16:04

nztim:

if everyone is being a holdout for the old ONTs then the old ones will take longer to deplete stock sure I want to change out my ONT with the ghastly aerials on it, but I can't just have one because I want one

this, so note to all…if someone comes on here asking about hyper fibre…be supportive because that’s one more unit out of the chorus warehouse and one more unit closer to the new one being available!

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#3401124 8-Aug-2025 16:18

Goosey:

this, so note to all…if someone comes on here asking about hyper fibre…be supportive because that’s one more unit out of the chorus warehouse and one more unit closer to the new one being available!

Nice idea but the demand simply isn't there and Chorus have announced the dates when the new ONT's will be available.

I work in the internet industry and its my observation the underlying issue is the marketplace doesn't want Hyperfibre in any great numbers at this time.

Even thinking of myself the only reason I want it is to give it a try and because at a wholesale level the circuit price difference between 920/500 and HF1000 is insignificant. But rationally what do I need a Gbps for? TBH I don't have a massive use case for it.

When I look at client port graphs I don't see any great correlation between circuit speed and usage. I am one of the highest users at circa-150Gb a day and I manage that on VDSL.

Also to get any benefit from HF2000+ I would have to upgrade my LAN to 10Gbps and this is a not-insignificant cost.

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#3401142 8-Aug-2025 17:07

at only 150gb per day - You need a bigger home lab. 😁

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#3401151 8-Aug-2025 18:40

MichaelNZ:

I work in the internet industry and its my observation the underlying issue is the marketplace doesn't want Hyperfibre in any great numbers at this time.

We want it, we're just not willing to pay for it.

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#3401152 8-Aug-2025 18:44

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at only 150gb per day - You need a bigger home lab. 😁

Suggestions welcome. What would you do with a 1Gbps HF connection and plenty of IP addresses?

Unfortunately I don't have an unlimited power budget.

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#3401159 8-Aug-2025 19:35

BMarquis:

Sorry.... but... Having 2, 4 and 8gbps symmetrical services available as residential offers in NZ (the first in the southern hemisphere using XGSPON) is definitely a roaring success!

yep, I've read a few users here preferring to not want the currently-available ONT, but there is a far greater customer base who seem quite happy to use the current ONT.
We've taken the physical dimension feedback on board when selecting the new ONT. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean we're going to throw perfectly good devices into the e-waste.

Adding the first in the southern hemisphere is not a roaring success, we realistically have to beat 1 country that in geographic terms is gigantic beside us, If you offered the new ont beside the old ont it would have been more successful, and if people signing up did not request either then you could supply the old ont.

If you had any real competition that could use existing fibre lines from ISP's that could offer their own ONT's I wonder how fast you would change your minds about being stuck in your own ways.

I have HF and the ONT is completely useless for a new house with a wall cabinet like mine,

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#3401160 8-Aug-2025 19:37

BMarquis:

new ONTs being used are dependant on techs/service companies consuming their (and our) stock of the current device.

In agreement with @Mikek I am also holding out for the new wall mount ONT. Its the reason I placed my initial UFB order for 920/500 and not HF 1000.

Noting Chorus is pushing HF hard - I am ready and willing to upgrade once I am sure I will get a Zyxel.

Furthermore the ISP I work for is not even offering HF (and has received no interest in it) until the new ONT's are available. We want the minimum chances for something to go wrong.

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#3401172 8-Aug-2025 21:24

Perhaps Chorus could run a Hyper Fibre ad campaign "They may try to take our Pavlova, but they'll never take take our Internet speeds!"

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#3401303 9-Aug-2025 17:01

We don't need Hyper Fibre to embarass the Australian NBN.

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#3402344 13-Aug-2025 09:59

MichaelNZ:

Nice idea but the demand simply isn't there and Chorus have announced the dates when the new ONT's will be available.

I work in the internet industry and its my observation the underlying issue is the marketplace doesn't want Hyperfibre in any great numbers at this time.

The LFCs push their prices & speed tiers up over time - except for 1000/500 where they only put the price up :P Every year the cost:benefit of upgrading to 1000/500 worsens.

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#3402346 13-Aug-2025 10:11

deadlyllama:

The LFCs push their prices & speed tiers up over time - except for 1000/500 where they only put the price up :P Every year the cost:benefit of upgrading to 1000/500 worsens.

The extra 400mbps (500/100 vs 920/500) is quite useful although admittedly not the average home user.

Looking at it from an ISP point of view I don't mind if people find more use cases for upload.

We purchase our bandwidth as symmetrical circuits but the majority of traffic is incoming. If it weren't for business users this bias would be even greater.

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#3402368 13-Aug-2025 11:11

MichaelNZ:

The extra 400mbps (500/100 vs 920/500) is quite useful although admittedly not the average home user.

If you need the 500Mbps up, you need it!

Most of the fibre marketing seems to be persuading people who don't need the higher speeds, that they do. The marginal cost per user to an LFC of an individual user going from 100/20 to 1000/500 will be a rounding error, so the higher tiers are all profit.

I know people who buy into that marketing but would be quite happy on 4G FWA, and could do with the extra $$$ in their wallet.

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#3402385 13-Aug-2025 13:27

Classic sunk-cost fallacy from a mediocre decision made years ago. At some point Chorus will need to move on and roll out the new hardware regardless, as this will be holding back uptake KPIs. Until then, nobody will want to make the call to write off unused hardware.

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#3402389 13-Aug-2025 13:48

Nate001:

Classic sunk-cost fallacy from a mediocre decision made years ago. At some point Chorus will need to move on and roll out the new hardware regardless, as this will be holding back uptake KPIs. Until then, nobody will want to make the call to write off unused hardware.

I'm not sure what mediocre decision you refer to. If it's the Hyperfibre ONT selection, then I don't see why it's mediocre. The product is entirely fit for purpose, just not in a form factor some people want. When the decision was made, there would have been very little choice. Even for the most recent round of procurement, Chorus opted for two models of ONT when long-term the goal should be to standardise on a single solution.

Eventually, I hope to see the end of tiered pricing for the fibre connection and ISPs given more choice around what speeds to offer and how to differentiate between products.

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