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#889567 4-Sep-2013 11:40

nate: I'm in the same boat, wanting to back up all my parent's data.

I'm wondering if I get them a NAS for on-site backups, and then have that stream to something like crashplan?

The whole thing has to be low maintenance as they won't know what to do if something breaks.

I see no point in the NAS, just go direct to CrashPlan or to your computer.

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#889569 4-Sep-2013 11:44

timmmay:
nate: I'm in the same boat, wanting to back up all my parent's data.

I'm wondering if I get them a NAS for on-site backups, and then have that stream to something like crashplan?

The whole thing has to be low maintenance as they won't know what to do if something breaks.

I see no point in the NAS, just go direct to CrashPlan or to your computer.

or both....or both + a USB drive... 3 backups man, 3 backups!!

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#889585 4-Sep-2013 12:03

davidcole: or both....or both + a USB drive... 3 backups man, 3 backups!!

Well I back up to:
- Crashplan
- Mozy (just because I never turned it off)
- Two drives in different places on my property
- To a drive at work
- To drives at two different friends houses

So around seven levels, but big stuff is only on two or three of them, small stuff (documents) are everywhere. These include mirrors and non-mirrored versions so if my main drive corrupts I don't lose everything. I'm fairly paranoid, but I deal with peoples wedding photos which can't be recreated if they're lost.

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#889586 4-Sep-2013 12:05

timmmay: I see no point in the NAS, just go direct to CrashPlan or to your computer.

NAS = on-site backup
CrashPlan = off-site

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#889587 4-Sep-2013 12:05

timmmay:
davidcole: or both....or both + a USB drive... 3 backups man, 3 backups!!

Well I back up to:
- Crashplan
- Mozy (just because I never turned it off)
- Two drives in different places on my property
- To a drive at work
- To drives at two different friends houses

So around seven levels, but big stuff is only on two or three of them, small stuff (documents) are everywhere. These include mirrors and non-mirrored versions so if my main drive corrupts I don't lose everything. I'm fairly paranoid, but I deal with peoples wedding photos which can't be recreated if they're lost.

I hope for your sake it's all automated.

Mine is all crashplan based.

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#889590 4-Sep-2013 12:18

nate:
timmmay: I see no point in the NAS, just go direct to CrashPlan or to your computer.

NAS = on-site backup
CrashPlan = off-site

crashplan to both. Off site (paid to cloud, or to you free).

And to a usb drive. No nas needed then

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#889593 4-Sep-2013 12:27

I'm thinking a true offsite backup needs to be on another continent to be properly safe from geological perils.

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#889594 4-Sep-2013 12:29

Geektastic: I'm thinking a true offsite backup needs to be on another continent to be properly safe from geological perils.

that's what a cloud backup, or a friend in the states is for.

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#889596 4-Sep-2013 12:30

nate: I'm in the same boat, wanting to back up all my parent's data.

I'm wondering if I get them a NAS for on-site backups, and then have that stream to something like crashplan?

The whole thing has to be low maintenance as they won't know what to do if something breaks.

Backup all computers to an external HDD connected to a Raspberry Pi via the network, which runs CrashPlan? There are tutorials on how to set up the R-Pi as a NAS/CrashPlan uploader.

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#889642 4-Sep-2013 13:11

davidcole:
timmmay:
davidcole: or both....or both + a USB drive... 3 backups man, 3 backups!!

Well I back up to:
- Crashplan
- Mozy (just because I never turned it off)
- Two drives in different places on my property
- To a drive at work
- To drives at two different friends houses

So around seven levels, but big stuff is only on two or three of them, small stuff (documents) are everywhere. These include mirrors and non-mirrored versions so if my main drive corrupts I don't lose everything. I'm fairly paranoid, but I deal with peoples wedding photos which can't be recreated if they're lost.

I hope for your sake it's all automated.

Mine is all crashplan based.

Nope, the hard drives are stored in cupboards. I update on site weekly, off site #1 after important events, and offsite #2 every few months. If there's any reason I can't update an offsite drive quickly I can add a folder to my cloud backups temporarily. Critical stuff like documents, financials, album designs, etc are online backups.

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#889647 4-Sep-2013 13:17

MackinNZ: iBUS. I use these guys and they are great. Good service, reasonable price. Data stored in NZ.

http://ibus.co.nz/IBUS/Home.html

No pricing on their website is a turn off for me.

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#889808 4-Sep-2013 16:52

I run 3 backups on my Mac Pro, which contains 4 hard drives.

Drive 1 - 480GB SSD contains OS/apps/music/photos/some video
Drive 2 - 1TB SATA which is a bootable clone of Drive 1
Drive 3 - 1TB SATA containing my home videos and other stored files
Drive 4 - 1 TB SATA containing TV shows and movies

I use Time Capsule to back up all of Drive 1 and selected folders from 3 & 4
I use Carbon Copy Cloner to create the bootable clone of Drive 1 on Drive 2
I use LiveDrive cloud backup for selected important folders from Drives 1, 3 and 4

Probably overkill, but I feel better having several solutions in place.

I find Live Drive quite good. I think it cost me less than $200 for 2 years, unlimited storage, and it runs incremental backups in the background using the app they provide, which lets you customise which folders you back up. I can also access all those files from any computer via a browser, or via their app on my iPhone and iPad. The only problem is, being US-based, the upload speeds are extremely slow. On ADSL I was getting 95kbps and it took me 3 months to back up all the folders I wanted to include. I would have had to break it into chunks anyway, to avoid blowing my data cap, but it was a bit painful. It slowed down browsing a lot, so I ran it all night, 3-4 nights a week, until everything was up to date. Once that was out of the way it's been great. Now it runs in the background and I don't even notice it. Also, now I'm on VDSL, I'm getting upload speeds of around 300-400 kbps, which is still not fast, but a big improvement.

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#889813 4-Sep-2013 17:04

does crash plan do versioning?

so if you accidently delete something you can get it back?

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#889815 4-Sep-2013 17:08

^ Yes they do.

Do whatever you want to do man.

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#890115 5-Sep-2013 09:49

Think I might look at Crashplan plus putting a drive at my home and my in-laws in Canada and using Crashplan+ Family and having both of backup to the cloud and to each others hdds.

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