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Master Geek

#2534979 5-Aug-2020 10:34

I'm not sure future proofing with AM4 is really possible, we may be at the end of the sockets life with the Zen3 chips. AMD promised support through to this year when it released, there is no guarantee there will ever be an upgrade past Zen3 without a new socket. It's been a pretty good run so far.

I have an X470 board and a Ryzen 2700X from 2 years ago, I may put a Ryzen 4xxx into it at some point and if I do it'll be the first time I've ever kept a motherboard from a gaming PC and done a CPU upgrade. People talk about future proofing a lot but by the time a PC is 2-3 years old it's generally easier to replace MB/CPU/RAM all together and sell the old ones as a set. Any older than that and it becomes almost the only way.

My personal advice is just built the PC you want now and don't concern yourself with "future proofing"

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#2534986 5-Aug-2020 10:37

Dugimodo:

I'm not sure future proofing with AM4 is really possible, we may be at the end of the sockets life with the Zen3 chips. AMD promised support through to this year when it released, there is no guarantee there will ever be an upgrade past Zen3 without a new socket. It's been a pretty good run so far.

I have an X470 board and a Ryzen 2700X from 2 years ago, I may put a Ryzen 4xxx into it at some point and if I do it'll be the first time I've ever kept a motherboard from a gaming PC and done a CPU upgrade. People talk about future proofing a lot but by the time a PC is 2-3 years old it's generally easier to replace MB/CPU/RAM all together and sell the old ones as a set. Any older than that and it becomes almost the only way.

My personal advice is just built the PC you want now and don't concern yourself with "future proofing"

Agreed, future proofing was wrong thing to say.

My current Gaming PC is 6 - 7 years old, i have since got a new GFX for it a AMD 8gb card, this will last a few more years.

Want a motherboard and CPU that will last a few years before upgrading again.

Understood i will probably need a new motherboard later on, if i can get Ryzen 3600 that will keep me going for now that would be great.

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#2534987 5-Aug-2020 10:38

Intel change the socket virtually every generation, I was just hoping AMD would be better. Generally, yes, but not the best timing. I have to replace in the next few months as parts of my PC are failing - USB ports are half stuffed but I put in a USB card, sound is stuffed but I put in a USB sound card.

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Ultimate Geek

#2534997 5-Aug-2020 10:54

timmmay:

Ah, I think I read that this will be the last one on AM4 and misremembered. Still, the 4000 series should be a bit faster, but won't be as future-proof as I was hoping. In practice though I haven't upgraded just a CPU in about 10 - 15 years, you tend to buy a new motherboard and RAM.

Correct, X670 chipset will be coming though - hopefully with better PCIe 4.0 thermal management as X570 was a huge letdown for many enthusiasts with its chipset fan. That's what I'm waiting for to replace my 6 year old i4790K :)

End of year is a great time to be building an uber rig with 3000 series graphics cards due, even Noctua will be releasing the best 120 fan on the market in black instead of their trademark gross beige and brown :D

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#2534998 5-Aug-2020 10:59

arcon:

Correct, X670 chipset will be coming though - hopefully with better PCIe 4.0 thermal management as X570 was a huge letdown for many enthusiasts with its chipset fan. That's what I'm waiting for to replace my 6 year old i4790K :)

End of year is a great time to be building an uber rig with 3000 series graphics cards due, even Noctua will be releasing the best 120 fan on the market in black instead of their trademark gross beige and brown :D

I could never get auto fan stuff working on my i7 2600K, I ended up buying a fan controller, if I'm doing anything intensive I turn the knobs to turn the fans up.

I have a Noctua heatsink, works well, but it's faaaar too big with 140mm fans top and bottom, it blocks motherboard ports. Not sure I'd buy another of their heatsinks, but their fans are good. I really don't care what colors things are though, I have a black box so I can't see the components.

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Ultimate Geek

#2535020 5-Aug-2020 11:42

timmmay:

arcon:

Correct, X670 chipset will be coming though - hopefully with better PCIe 4.0 thermal management as X570 was a huge letdown for many enthusiasts with its chipset fan. That's what I'm waiting for to replace my 6 year old i4790K :)

End of year is a great time to be building an uber rig with 3000 series graphics cards due, even Noctua will be releasing the best 120 fan on the market in black instead of their trademark gross beige and brown :D

I could never get auto fan stuff working on my i7 2600K, I ended up buying a fan controller, if I'm doing anything intensive I turn the knobs to turn the fans up.

I have a Noctua heatsink, works well, but it's faaaar too big with 140mm fans top and bottom, it blocks motherboard ports. Not sure I'd buy another of their heatsinks, but their fans are good. I really don't care what colors things are though, I have a black box so I can't see the components.

Yeah many people were complaining about X570 motherboards because they don't like having a chipset fan at all... there is currently only one fanless design from Gigabyte: AUROS Extreme Motherboard

Notice the insane price lol. But still... the amount of pipes & metal on that motherboard.... its does look sexy :D

I also have a massive Noctua CPU cooler but for the new rig will be moving to water.

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Master Geek

#2535173 5-Aug-2020 14:35

To get a motherboard that has decent features i would need to spend above $300, so i might wait till near end of the year and hopefully the price will come down.

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#2535183 5-Aug-2020 14:58

what features do you need?

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Master Geek

#2535234 5-Aug-2020 15:09

Jase2985:

what features do you need?

Similar to this one i have just found this is a MATX, I need a ATX for my case.

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDASU25513/ASUS-TUF-GAMING-B550M-PLUS-WI-FI-MATX-For-AMD-Ryze

DTS Custom for GAMING Headsets

Optical S/PDIF out port(s)

USB3.x ports (Gen 2)

USB-C not needed nice to have.

M.2 x 2 (Gen4)

N/W

HDMI

No PS2 ports, no need for them on a motherboard these days, could be wrong.

WiFi nice to have, but not needed.

Something like these.

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Ultimate Geek

#2535242 5-Aug-2020 15:29

MATX boards fit into ATX cases, most people don't really need ATX size boards

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Master Geek

#2535244 5-Aug-2020 15:31

Tzoi:

MATX boards fit into ATX cases, most people don't really need ATX size boards

Cool, in that case that will help :)

Cheers

Tzoi

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Ultimate Geek

#2535482 5-Aug-2020 20:57

The only difference will be to make sure you have the correct standoffs installed

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Ultimate Geek

#2535672 6-Aug-2020 11:59

TG09:

M.2 x 2 (Gen4)

Is this a gaming or a post production rig? Gen 4 NVME doesn't really effect game / app load times, so there might be considerable savings with Gen 3... that is I'm assuming Gen 3 is cheaper... haven't checked the prices recently :D

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Ultimate Geek

#2535731 6-Aug-2020 12:30

PCIE4 NVME drives are a decent amount more expensive, but for the most part there's no real noticeable improvement even moving from SATA SSDs to NVME ones

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#2535750 6-Aug-2020 13:01

TG09:

Jase2985:

what features do you need?

DTS Custom for GAMING Headsets

Sound card "features" are generally a gimmick imho. I purchased a decent USB wireless headset instead of worrying about what the board could support.

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