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#2535807 6-Aug-2020 14:34

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Sound card "features" are generally a gimmick imho. I purchased a decent USB wireless headset instead of worrying about what the board could support.

not according to reviews online

but yes a proper DAC will be better than anything you have from the motherboard

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#2535820 6-Aug-2020 14:57

Jase2985:

not according to reviews online

but yes a proper DAC will be better than anything you have from the motherboard

People like to justify their expensive purchases.

I have a $1000 headphone amp / DAC and some fairly nice headphones, LCD2. I tend to just plug them into the laptop as they sound fine, particularly with moderate bitrate streams. I actually use my speakers most of the time.

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#2535933 6-Aug-2020 19:47

timmmay:

People like to justify their expensive purchases.

I have a $1000 headphone amp / DAC and some fairly nice headphones, LCD2. I tend to just plug them into the laptop as they sound fine, particularly with moderate bitrate streams. I actually use my speakers most of the time.

most people doing the reviews dont buy they products they get given them by companies so there is no need to justify anything. they also dont owe companies anything for the free product. so reviews generally show the good bad or otherwise of the product. well the ones i see do anyways.

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#2536034 7-Aug-2020 08:09

Jase2985:

most people doing the reviews dont buy they products they get given them by companies so there is no need to justify anything. they also dont owe companies anything for the free product. so reviews generally show the good bad or otherwise of the product. well the ones i see do anyways.

My experience has been the opposite: the people getting free products to review don't want to upset the sponsor for fear of being cut-off from the free pre-release sample stream, and potentially also advertising revenue in the bigger outfits, so each product gets a softball re-ad-view. Its rampant in the audio world, with WhatHiFi being a shining example.

Back in the PC world, GamersNexus had exactly this situation happen to them with Cooler Master cases, because they published a particularly critical review of the original H500 case. And more recently they published a video on MSI's suspect review practices. Side bar: they are an excellent source for hardware reviews

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#2536206 7-Aug-2020 12:05

Jase2985:

most people doing the reviews dont buy they products they get given them by companies so there is no need to justify anything. they also dont owe companies anything for the free product. so reviews generally show the good bad or otherwise of the product. well the ones i see do anyways.

Its sometimes the opposite. Even on sites with a good rep for being honest .

Ive been caught buying a product with great reviews . The reviewers didnt mention the obvious serious faults (later many complaints on a forum related to this product ).
I would get quite p$%$%ssed when, now knowing the issues, I would see new reviews not mentioning these issues .

Reviewers are sometimes PAID to do these reviews , or will not bite the hand that feeds them with freebees to review.

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#2536266 7-Aug-2020 14:16

ShinyChrome:

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Back in the PC world, GamersNexus had exactly this situation happen to them with Cooler Master cases, because they published a particularly critical review of the original H500 case. And more recently they published a video on MSI's suspect review practices. Side bar: they are an excellent source for hardware reviews

I really like GN too. You do have to be aware though that sometimes the highest possible GN rating is Steve saying in a slightly begrudging tone "It's fine." High praise indeed...

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#2566721 17-Sep-2020 11:00

Looking at building a new PC without GFX for time being, will take my RX580. Limited funds for now

I've come across this site and a PC builder

https://newegg.io/7f5d7d3

Cost is ok, but delivery is a few hundred dollars. Comparing it against PBTech at the moment.

Any tips to build a AMD Gaming rig?

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#2566738 17-Sep-2020 11:14

PCPartpicker has a great system builder tool and uses pricing + availability from NZ stores if you are going down the DIY route. You can also browse other people's builds under the 'Completed Builds' section to see what components people are using.

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#2566756 17-Sep-2020 11:33

ShinyChrome:

PCPartpicker has a great system builder tool and uses pricing + availability from NZ stores if you are going down the DIY route. You can also browse other people's builds under the 'Completed Builds' section to see what components people are using.

Thank you, come up with this so far

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/LK4khg

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#2566780 17-Sep-2020 12:22

TG09:

Thank you, come up with this so far

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/LK4khg

That's a nice looking build, can't believe how cheap a 1tb NVMe drive is these days.

I would personally save ~$80 and opt for the 3600 non-x, as most reviews have shown there is very little real-world performance difference between the two; instead I would go for a better motherboard, something like this.

If you need WiFi, it doesn't have it built in, but it has a slot for putting in a WiFi card. The built in one in that Phantom Gaming board is not the greatest, so you could purchase a much better add-in card separately. With the Steel Legend, you also get a better LAN chip, better audio codec, and generally more-upmarket features.

The Gen. 3 Ryzen CPUs should hopefully get a little cheaper over the next couple of months, as the Gen. 4 launch is imminent. At this point though, you might as well wait and see what AMD is debuting with the Gen. 4 Ryzen lineup to be honest.

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#2567349 18-Sep-2020 10:38

ShinyChrome:

TG09:

Thank you, come up with this so far

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/LK4khg

That's a nice looking build, can't believe how cheap a 1tb NVMe drive is these days.

I would personally save ~$80 and opt for the 3600 non-x, as most reviews have shown there is very little real-world performance difference between the two; instead I would go for a better motherboard, something like this.

If you need WiFi, it doesn't have it built in, but it has a slot for putting in a WiFi card. The built in one in that Phantom Gaming board is not the greatest, so you could purchase a much better add-in card separately. With the Steel Legend, you also get a better LAN chip, better audio codec, and generally more-upmarket features.

The Gen. 3 Ryzen CPUs should hopefully get a little cheaper over the next couple of months, as the Gen. 4 launch is imminent. At this point though, you might as well wait and see what AMD is debuting with the Gen. 4 Ryzen lineup to be honest.

Will ask Pbtech to see if they have any ideas and when a good time to buy. If i can get all for around 1200 there abouts will be good.

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