Does Telecom 'cripple' Nokia phones?

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#90973 4-Oct-2011 20:44

We’ve been looking at the options offered by the big three, Vodafone, Telecom and 2 degrees for the mobile phone requirements for a business we are setting up. Since we are already using Nokia phones and for a variety of other reasons Nokia is our preferred brand.

I got told today that Telecom downgrade the specs of Nokia phones when they put them on the Telecom network. To me this seems to be an unusual thing to do.

Does anyone know if this sort of thing is happening?

What sort of things would this person be referring to?

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#529170 4-Oct-2011 20:49

Hi TechnoFreak,

I can confirm that we do not change any of the technical specifications of any of our phones.

We do make minor SW changes to our phones as all telcos do. All this includes is flashing the Internet & MMS settings to the handset, Internet Bookmarks and Startup and Shutdown logos.

Hope this helps. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.

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Joe

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#529171 4-Oct-2011 20:51

I can't possibly imagine why a telco would do this or what on earth they mean by 'crippling'.

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#529172 4-Oct-2011 20:52

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the ultra fast reply and for the offer to answer any other Q's. I do have some other Q's that I'll probably ask via PM. I'm short of time right now so will PM you tomorrow. Cheers :)

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#529174 4-Oct-2011 20:54

Technofreak: Hi Joe,

Thanks for the ultra fast reply amd for the offer to answer any other Q's. I do have some other Q's that I'll probably ask via PM. I'm short of time right now so will PM you tomorrow. Cheers :)

No worries at all, look forward to answering your questions.

Cheers,

Joe

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#529175 4-Oct-2011 20:57

eXDee: I can't possibly imagine why a telco would do this or what on earth they mean by 'crippling'.

Neither could I. My use of the the word "cripple" was perhaps a bit dramatic. The info was relayed second hand but was along the lines of de-specing or downgrading the device.

Didn't make sense to me though I hear some Telcos in the USA want Nokia to remove some facilities like tethering and Ovi maps so that they can sell their own systems, I'm sure Telecom is not up to those tricks.

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#529176 4-Oct-2011 20:58

Technofreak: I got told today that Telecom downgrade the specs of Nokia phones when they put them on the Telecom network.

Whoever told you this, is this person a Telecom employe?

Does this person have any interest (as working for another telco, or for a handset manufacturer)?

Does this person have industry knowledge?

In other words, how credible would this person be?

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#529178 4-Oct-2011 20:59

freitasm:
Technofreak: I got told today that Telecom downgrade the specs of Nokia phones when they put them on the Telecom network.

Whoever told you this, is this person a Telecom employe?

Does this person have any interest (as working for another telco, or for a handset manufacturer)?

Does this person have industry knowledge?

In other words, how credible would this person be?

To answer your questions

No.

Yes.

Don't know.

Don't know

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#529180 4-Oct-2011 21:01

For that one "Yes" answer, if the person would benefit in any way from saying that Telecom does something with handsets they sell (as in preventing you from changing providers, or getting your business), then I'd discard the information as biased - and like you did, try to get third party information.

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#529197 4-Oct-2011 21:50

Completely false.

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#529209 4-Oct-2011 22:12

Sounds like rubbish to me

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#529423 5-Oct-2011 10:35

eXDee: I can't possibly imagine why a telco would do this or what on earth they mean by 'crippling'.

The only carrier that i know has crippled anything is AT&T who cripple HSPA+ an their normal 3G fones and want you to pay extra to go to a so called "4G" model like the Infuse 4G which runs HSPA+..

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#529634 5-Oct-2011 15:46

old3eyes:
eXDee: I can't possibly imagine why a telco would do this or what on earth they mean by 'crippling'.

The only carrier that i know has crippled anything is AT&T who cripple HSPA+ an their normal 3G fones and want you to pay extra to go to a so called "4G" model like the Infuse 4G which runs HSPA+..

Isn't that typically American to call something an upgrade that's not an upgrade. I've noticed them calling stuff 4G when we know it as 3G.

Thanks for the replies, they all confirm what I had suspected.

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#529641 5-Oct-2011 15:50

Yes, typical. They started calling EDGE 3G, and when real 3G came along they had to rebrand lots of handsets. Then someone got something faster, not 4G mind you but faster, so there goes the marketing department again...

The iPhone (with iPhone 3G then iPhone 4) didn't help, since many users though it the model name was iPhone 4G (which wasn't), meaning a 4G cell technology was being used... And so things get screwed.

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#529661 5-Oct-2011 16:09

freitasm: Yes, typical. They started calling EDGE 3G, and when real 3G came along they had to rebrand lots of handsets. Then someone got something faster, not 4G mind you but faster, so there goes the marketing department again...

The iPhone (with iPhone 3G then iPhone 4) didn't help, since many users though it the model name was iPhone 4G (which wasn't), meaning a 4G cell technology was being used... And so things get screwed.

That's the difference between a technician/engineer and a marketer/salesperson. I'm afraid I fall into the the former category and roll my eyes at some of the marketing shenanigans.

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#529737 5-Oct-2011 18:40

Technofreak:
freitasm: Yes, typical. They started calling EDGE 3G, and when real 3G came along they had to rebrand lots of handsets. Then someone got something faster, not 4G mind you but faster, so there goes the marketing department again...

The iPhone (with iPhone 3G then iPhone 4) didn't help, since many users though it the model name was iPhone 4G (which wasn't), meaning a 4G cell technology was being used... And so things get screwed.

That's the difference between a technician/engineer and a marketer/salesperson. ?I'm afraid I fall into the the former category and roll my eyes at some of the marketing shenanigans.

+1 where I work as well..

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