http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10660226

$229 is getting up there and does not make mention of including a game.

I will not me getting it unless the rest of my family force us into it (they wanted a WII).

Hopefully the actual price on the street will come down as it did for the Xbox slim otherwise I don't see Kinect making any real impact.