Router setup in new home. Has existing ethernet at a central location.

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#2561689 10-Sep-2020 13:15

Hi that 3rd photo is the same as the 2nd one, not sure if it helps much. I recommend you work out which cables go to where, plug the router into one of the patch ports in the cabinet and then take your laptop and check all the ones in the AV closet till you get a connection, rinse and repeat and record which are which. For a start disconnect all the yellow patch leads going to the patch panel.

Once you have established what goes where and presuming the AV location is good for your router (ie gives good wifi coverage) then place the router there, using one of the data links connect the ONT port1 to the WAN of your router. You can then use a 2nd data feed to take a LAN port back to the garage, then you can use a switch to feed other outlets that terminate in the garage cabinet.

My guess is not all the eight data outlets in the AV closet go back to the garage, instead they may go to other rooms, I presume there are other single and double outlets in other rooms? If so its possible some are fed from teh garage and some from the outlets in the AV closet, you will need to work it out. Also the HDMI leads in the AV cabinet, I presume they go to a wall mounted TV nearby, there also appears to be some cat5 data cables, I presume these also end up at that TV, in which case you can feed the ethernet port on the TV for better streaming.

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#2561703 10-Sep-2020 13:29

If you want to have the router with wifi in a central location, then the yellow ethernet cable from the ONT needs to go into the patch panel connection that feeds a data outlet in that central area. Connect that data outlet to the WAN of the router, then connect a LAN port on the router into another data outlet at that central location that will act as the return to the patch panel.

I would then connect the return data outlet on the patch panel to an unmanaged switch (maybe 8 port) in the data cupboard that houses the ONT, and any cables you connect from the switch to the patch panel will give those remaining outlets full connectivity around the house.

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#2561726 10-Sep-2020 14:08

UFB currently being provided via ONT LAN2 --> router.

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#2561729 10-Sep-2020 14:10

cyril7:

Hi that 3rd photo is the same as the 2nd one, not sure if it helps much. I recommend you work out which cables go to where, plug the router into one of the patch ports in the cabinet and then take your laptop and check all the ones in the AV closet till you get a connection, rinse and repeat and record which are which. For a start disconnect all the yellow patch leads going to the patch panel.

Once you have established what goes where and presuming the AV location is good for your router (ie gives good wifi coverage) then place the router there, using one of the data links connect the ONT port1 to the WAN of your router. You can then use a 2nd data feed to take a LAN port back to the garage, then you can use a switch to feed other outlets that terminate in the garage cabinet.

My guess is not all the eight data outlets in the AV closet go back to the garage, instead they may go to other rooms, I presume there are other single and double outlets in other rooms? If so its possible some are fed from teh garage and some from the outlets in the AV closet, you will need to work it out. Also the HDMI leads in the AV cabinet, I presume they go to a wall mounted TV nearby, there also appears to be some cat5 data cables, I presume these also end up at that TV, in which case you can feed the ethernet port on the TV for better streaming.

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My bad, this is the photo I meant to attach: https://ibb.co/6RxbykHhttps://ibb.co/Kx62Gjt

Slight problem there, in that none of our laptops have ethernet ports... Is there another way to check?

The Cat5's you're referring to are the blue ones right? These are all tied together and become an aux cable in the AV closet. These go to 3 different wall outlets for TVs, and have a remote (infrared?) receiver thing at that end, along with a HDMI each, and one of the grey aerial type cables.

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#2561731 10-Sep-2020 14:14

PJ48:

If you want to have the router with wifi in a central location, then the yellow ethernet cable from the ONT needs to go into the patch panel connection that feeds a data outlet in that central area. Connect that data outlet to the WAN of the router, then connect a LAN port on the router into another data outlet at that central location that will act as the return to the patch panel.

Okay I follow this.

PJ48:

I would then connect the return data outlet on the patch panel to an unmanaged switch (maybe 8 port) in the data cupboard that houses the ONT, and any cables you connect from the switch to the patch panel will give those remaining outlets full connectivity around the house.

When you guys are numbering the ports, does it go 1-6 on the left, then 7-12 on the right?

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#2561732 10-Sep-2020 14:17

Hi, ewww errr thats a right royal fu6k up, whats behind the other faceplate in the AV closet.

Also as per my previous message, are there data oulets in other locations in the house, based on the last image that looks like its a phone distributor or perhaps IR, I would presume the other 4 gang outlet in the AV area is proper data, but a picture please. If that is true then it would indicate there are 4 data outlets in teh AV area and 7 elsewhere

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#2561733 10-Sep-2020 14:17

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UFB currently being provided via ONT LAN2 --> router.

You're referring to the LAN2 light being orange, which means that's the black cable out the bottom of the ONT going to my router? That's right. Not sure how that helps though sorry?

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#2561734 10-Sep-2020 14:18

WoodyThemMilkMan:

Slight problem there, in that none of our laptops have ethernet ports... Is there another way to check?

You can do it with pretty much anything that has flashy lights on the ethernet ports, you will need a router at one end (you could even use the ONT if you have enough cables to jumper it) - and then a switch or router at the other end, and if they are completing the circuit they will flash.....

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#2561748 10-Sep-2020 14:33

cyril7:

Hi, ewww errr thats a right royal fu6k up, whats behind the other faceplate in the AV closet.

Also as per my previous message, are there data oulets in other locations in the house, based on the last image that looks like its a phone distributor or perhaps IR, I would presume the other 4 gang outlet in the AV area is proper data, but a picture please. If that is true then it would indicate there are 4 data outlets in teh AV area and 7 elsewhere

Cyril

That's a bit tidier that one: https://ibb.co/WFfHZmW

Has 4 of the Cat6 cables, and they are numbered 1-4. Pulled the faceplates off all the other ethernet ports I can find and they are numbered 5-8. I suspect that is useful 🤷‍♂️

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#2561749 10-Sep-2020 14:35

Hi, yes now you are onto something, my guess is those map to the very left hand patch panel in the cabinet, the ports there will be numbered 1-6 so thats a good place to start, so if you have an old switch or another old router, then plug your current router into say port1 on the patch panel and using a port on an older router or switch find the port that lights it up

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#2561759 10-Sep-2020 14:54

cyril7:

Hi, yes now you are onto something, my guess is those map to the very left hand patch panel in the cabinet, the ports there will be numbered 1-6 so thats a good place to start, so if you have an old switch or another old router, then plug your current router into say port1 on the patch panel and using a port on an older router or switch find the port that lights it up

Cyril

Here's a clearer view of the patch panel: https://ibb.co/qMttFXj

You can see 1-6 is LHS, and 7-12 is RHS

So, this is how it looks

#1 cable out of it, going to the top RHS horizontal wire block

#2 empty

#3 cable into into it from ONT

#4 connected to 5

#5 connected to 4

#6 empty

So since the ONT is going into #3, I should be able to connect the router to #3 in the cupboard, right? That's all I'm really trying to achieve at this stage.

But if I did connect the router back to #4, then #5 would get ethernet?

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#2561766 10-Sep-2020 15:03

Hi, yes that is correct, I guess you have already worked out that you need to move the yellow cable on 3 to port2 of the ONT as that is what your service is provisioned on.

So for now I recommend you remove the yellow jumper going to the phone distributor and connecting to #1, you dont need this assuming you are not using phones.

Now plug the ONT into #1 and use outlet 1 in the AV closet to connect to the router WAN. Now you can patch 2 or 3 of the LAN ports on the route back via 2-4 in the AV area and patch those to other outlets in the house.

Alternatively just patch one of the LAN ports back to the garage cabinet and purchase a small switch to put in the garage cabinet and distribute to outlets around the house.

Cyril

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#2561776 10-Sep-2020 15:21

cyril7:

Hi, yes that is correct, I guess you have already worked out that you need to move the yellow cable on 3 to port2 of the ONT as that is what your service is provisioned on.

So for now I recommend you remove the yellow jumper going to the phone distributor and connecting to #1, you dont need this assuming you are not using phones.

Now plug the ONT into #1 and use outlet 1 in the AV closet to connect to the router WAN. Now you can patch 2 or 3 of the LAN ports on the route back via 2-4 in the AV area and patch those to other outlets in the house.

Alternatively just patch one of the LAN ports back to the garage cabinet and purchase a small switch to put in the garage cabinet and distribute to outlets around the house.

Cyril

I had not realised that, so good catch :)

Ah so those horizontal ones that port 1 goes to are for phones, gotcha.

Will do this after work, and report back. Thanks for all your help!

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#2561780 10-Sep-2020 15:35

Hi, yes that right hand block of terminals is a simple paralleling module used for phones. So if you wanted you could infact find where those cat6 cables go to and change the BT phone sockets out in the various rooms for RJ45 keystones and have those 5 cables terminated on the four spare data patch panel ports on the middle panel.

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#2561787 10-Sep-2020 15:42

cyril7:

Hi, yes that right hand block of terminals is a simple paralleling module used for phones. So if you wanted you could infact find where those cat6 cables go to and change the BT phone sockets out in the various rooms for RJ45 keystones and have those 5 cables terminated on the four spare data patch panel ports on the middle panel.

Cyril

I think I follow that, but since all the phone sockets are next to ethernet sockets, probably not too much point. Thanks for the info though!

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