New home cabling confusion!!!

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Master Geek

#373174 26-Aug-2010 15:56

OK, here tis..

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/networking.jpg

Heres the pics of hub
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/DSC00251.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/DSC00252.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/DSC00254.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/DSC00253.jpg

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Ultimate Geek

#373182 26-Aug-2010 16:08

oh bugger, he hasn't terminated all 4 pairs so you won't get a gigabit connection.
still looks messy to me! sorry!!!!

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#373192 26-Aug-2010 16:19

Geez thats still pretty bad as far as wiring goes. Supposed to maintain the twist as close to the termination blocks as possible. Also, all 4 pairs are supposed to be punched down (whats happened to the blue pair? Unless I am not understanding what is going on here). The lack of twist + the missing blue pair will consign you to 10/100 speeds.

As you have demonstrated, by connecting directly to the switch you get 1000 (as you are bypassing the bad wiring).

[edit] snap....tooo slow

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#373196 26-Aug-2010 16:21

JimmyLizar: whats happened to the blue pair?

The electrician has stolen it to use for the phone connection to the bedroom. :(

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#373198 26-Aug-2010 16:22

JimmyLizar: (whats happened to the blue pair?

i think he's punched the blue pair up on the voice block so he's sending voice down the blue pair??

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#373204 26-Aug-2010 16:31

That is shocking work, and yes it would appear that he has piped either voice or DSL to each room, presumably the DSL to the downstairs office.

If you want GigE then you will need to have it fully wired, and the pair twists kept a close as possible, and reduce the amount of unsheathed cable as much as possible, although this is not too much of an issue.

If you want GigE you need all 4 pairs and thus you will also need to site the router at the hub, as you seem to get good wireless coverage thought out the house then siting it in the hub may not be as bad as you think.

Using a single run for two services (ethernet and voice or even DSL as well) is ok, but to do it by seperating out pairs within the permanent wiring is not a good idea. Its better to provide the permanant wiring (patch panel socket to room TO) as fully wired, then use the correct splitters at each end to split the services should you want. This way you dont need tools to do changes, you always have fully wired permanent wiring, and it clearly plain to see why and what you have, not hidden within the wall.

I repeat my previous comment, dont bother getting this monkey back, he plainly has no idea, and the work of his repeat visit only goes to reinforce this.

I would also be very concerned as to why one circuit is only providing 10Mb/s, this I suggest is a result of too much untwist at either the patch panel or TO, and looking at these pictures its not hard to imagine that he stuffed the TOs too.

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Master Geek

#373215 26-Aug-2010 17:05

Heres a pic of the wiring in master bedroom. Yep, one cable :(

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/DSC00257.jpg

Edit: Just checked downstairs room and yep, one cable so assume all ports have one cable then :(
Now going to check lounge (ADSL/Data) socket and will post pic

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#373225 26-Aug-2010 17:15

all I can say is OMG .....I really want to beat my head against a wall when I see work like this.....

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#373233 26-Aug-2010 17:26

Yep, same again, only one cable at ADSL/Data ports here in lounge

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/Toby3_photo/DSC00262.jpg

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#373242 26-Aug-2010 17:38

Honetly that is so poor, sadly we have no rules or body to report such poor work like this, one advantage of the Aussie setup.

Why has he not trimmed the wires on the TO, this will cause massive impedance mismatching, and the twist is totally gone, no wonder it does not pass even 100Mb/s on some ports.

You need to get someone other than this monkey to sort it out, maybe a slab of beer for coffeebaron.

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#373243 26-Aug-2010 17:40

What can I say?!

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#373245 26-Aug-2010 17:43

I think he does, just hope all the spare cable slack has not be cut away leaving you a awkward job.

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#373247 26-Aug-2010 17:45

The other issue too, is I think all the RJ45 jacks are pretty much 1 feed each; so if you do want phone & data at the same place, then you need to split it. All four pairs should of course still be wired, and a splitter used at each end.
For a new home, surely at-least two cable runs to each socket is the minimum.

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#373248 26-Aug-2010 17:45

Honestly? I would love you to come out and SHOULD have!! I just felt the guy who originally did this all SHOULD fix it, the only reason why I got him instead of you coffeebaron.

Alas, hubby has had a gutful after paying out a few hundred $$ and its still not right so doesnt want to spend anymore on it :(

By the way - He is a she :) Cant you tell? I have an awesome memory when a man (sparky in this case) pisses me off :)

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#373249 26-Aug-2010 17:46

cyril7: I think he does, just hope all the spare cable slack has not be cut away leaving you a awkward job.

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