Kindle reaching end of life

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#799803 15-Apr-2013 19:11

jonherries:
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networkn: I love my Paperwhite, but I honestly think the lack of physical next and previous page buttons is a stupid flaw that must be addressed in the next version. Even the first touch version had buttons.

I LOVED my Keyboard Kindle in fact I had two of them one in the car.

Can't see then doing that, and people will get used to it. The ipad doesn't have any buttons. It would be better if it didn't have any buttons at all and was a totally sealed waterproof device

I don't know a single person who prefers an iPad to a E-Reader for reading.

There is a lot of "they will get used to it" running around right now. I am a little over it frankly, I'd like for my opinion as a consumer to be pretty important to the manufacturers that produce the items I purchase. :)

I prefer an ipad for reading...

I don't swipe to change page, just tap either side of the screen in ibooks.
I read mostly at night and like having a backlit display.
I am short-sighted and read quickly so like having lots of very small words on the page.

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Jon

Ok well I stand corrected, I know 1 person! Woohoo

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#799870 15-Apr-2013 21:06

I had the non-touch kindle wifi and loved the buttons but since my daughter wanted one, she got it for xmas. I'm now using my nexus 7 and loving it.
I think th kindle is too small for a touch screen... I did try a friends but kept pressing the bezel :-/

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#799978 16-Apr-2013 07:56

I used my 10" IPS screen for reading in Samoa.... too many reflections, too heavy, was horrible. Got a paperwhite when I got home. Awesome. I'd rather have buttons but I'm used to the touch screen now.

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#801457 18-Apr-2013 11:09

As a user of electronic reader I own both the Sony PRS650 and the KOBO mini, I wonder just how much your reading cost would be if you read real books. Books do have the advantage that multiple peeple can read and they dont require a device to read them. And when you have finished with book you can always donate to SPCA or Mission shops who can sell and make some money, wheras electronic books are never owned by you and you cannot (legally) allow anyone else to use. Yes books are a little dearer but the range is so much wider. Many times I find a book I want to read and its not available in Electronic format so I still have to keep buying books. Non Fiction books especially have little published electronically.

And finally I dont have to fear that I will wake up one day and find that Amazon have nicked all my books as they legally own them. Which is a pretty good reason for not using a Kindle I think.

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#801459 18-Apr-2013 11:14

ronw: As a user of electronic reader I own both the Sony PRS650 and the KOBO mini, I wonder just how much your reading cost would be if you read real books. Books do have the advantage that multiple peeple can read and they dont require a device to read them. And when you have finished with book you can always donate to SPCA or Mission shops who can sell and make some money, wheras electronic books are never owned by you and you cannot (legally) allow anyone else to use. Yes books are a little dearer but the range is so much wider. Many times I find a book I want to read and its not available in Electronic format so I still have to keep buying books. Non Fiction books especially have little published electronically.

And finally I dont have to fear that I will wake up one day and find that Amazon have nicked all my books as they legally own them. Which is a pretty good reason for not using a Kindle I think.

Shortly I expect that Amazon will extend it's ability which already exists in the US to "lend" your titles to other kindle users, to NZ. I don't worry about things with a stupidly low chance of happening. Why would Amazon nick your books? They don't have resale value to them, or any value other than the initial margin on the first sale. I'll take the convenience and benefits of a Kindle over any risks associated every single day of the week. It's the best gadget I own, and I am a "gadget" guy.

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#801462 18-Apr-2013 11:19

Theyb can decide at anytime to block your books and I have read things online where that has just happned. I dislike the idea of buying something that I dont own. When I buy a book I own it and can on sell it or just give it away. You cannot do that with E-Books well certainly not Amazon ones.
As I stated I own and use two different readers and love them but the both use epub formats which is certainly better than Kindles closed format

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#801469 18-Apr-2013 11:23

ronw: Theyb can decide at anytime to block your books and I have read things online where that has just happned. I dislike the idea of buying something that I dont own. When I buy a book I own it and can on sell it or just give it away. You cannot do that with E-Books well certainly not Amazon ones.
As I stated I own and use two different readers and love them but the both use epub formats which is certainly better than Kindles closed format

Everytime you buy software you are doing the same thing. Accidents happen and Amazon realized it's mistake and made the situation right, should not have happened, but if you work for an organization that has never made a mistake that has disadvantaged one of your customers I'd love to hear about it.

E-Books are cheaper as there are no printing costs or distribution costs, they are lighter. The downside is you can't resell it but you can't with almost any software now.

Anyways if you just came here to troll the Kindle, save your breath.

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#801471 18-Apr-2013 11:24

You can load mobi and pdf books/documents onto a kindle very easily. There's software called "send to kindle" which runs on PC/Mac.

If you want physical books you can go to a library.

I use a paperwhite, love it. I read a physical book recently, it's annoying, heavy, and there's no built in light!

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#801620 18-Apr-2013 13:30

ronw: As a user of electronic reader I own both the Sony PRS650 and the KOBO mini, I wonder just how much your reading cost would be if you read real books. Books do have the advantage that multiple peeple can read and they dont require a device to read them. And when you have finished with book you can always donate to SPCA or Mission shops who can sell and make some money, wheras electronic books are never owned by you and you cannot (legally) allow anyone else to use. Yes books are a little dearer but the range is so much wider. Many times I find a book I want to read and its not available in Electronic format so I still have to keep buying books. Non Fiction books especially have little published electronically.

And finally I dont have to fear that I will wake up one day and find that Amazon have nicked all my books as they legally own them. Which is a pretty good reason for not using a Kindle I think.

I read voraciously. It's not uncommon for me to read a book in a day (I've been known to lose myself in a book and look up to realise the sun is up and I've read all night), so the cost of buying books has been very high for me. A few years ago I spent a few months holding a market stall to sell off my books. There are no second-hand book dealers left around here. Charity shops aren't interested in taking used books. They don't sell on TradeMe. And I have a real problem with throwing books out. Tens of thousands of dollars have been spent on books. Since moving to ebooks, I am still spending a lot but at least I don't have the agony of trying to find another home from them when I've read them.

The only physical books I buy now (and the only ones I keep) are non-fiction. And only then if they are heavily illustrated or are reference materials I prefer to physically browse.

Amazon have removed very few titles, and only where they have been compelled to do so. To actually remove them from the Kindle it needs to be on 3G or have wireless on. My wireless is only turned on to download books. All my books are backed up on PC anyway so I don't worry about this.

As to format - not all Kindle books are protected by DRM. Lately, I've noticed more coming through that are DRM-free. Since their format is simply a version of .mobi format reading them on other devices isn't an issue. Similarly, converting .epub books to .mobi so they can be read on a Kindle is very quick and simple. Using a Kindle doesn't mean you can only buy from Amazon.

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