AI is just getting scary

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#2012783 9-May-2018 16:16

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Why to they always the tout the weather aspect. Is it going to be chilly outside today/tomorrow. I don't think I have ever asked my phone for the weather. I do make appointments and reply to messages with android auto but that's about it really.

I for one welcome our new robot overlords , May google reign supreme.

huh I ask my phone that every morning and if we are travelling somewhere what it will be there. Kinda useful.

Personally I have never used anything like Siri or however, Never even asked them a question, When visiting family they had a Google home and I said the trigger word and almost put the thing down the Insinkerator!

Ask Siri to 'beatbox' and 'beatbox again' a few times. :)

Kids won't stop doing it.

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#2012791 9-May-2018 16:32

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Quite a difference between booking haircut and SkyNet initiating judgement day.

What I'm most impressed by is how much like real person it sounded.

I can see lots of opportunities for kids to get google to make "bart simpson" calls to businesses to make reservations under "creative names"

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#2012850 9-May-2018 18:38

Coil:

Personally I have never used anything like Siri or however, Never even asked them a question,

Eh, it's handy when you're cooking and your hands are dirty; 'Hey Siri, give me a 20 minute timer.'

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#2012896 9-May-2018 19:37

I use Google Assistant (and Cortana before that) to send and read text messages when driving, and sometimes to set reminders or alarms, or even for some longer Google searches that are too slow to type.

What I really want is an assistant that can have a conversation of sorts. I want to be able to ask a series of questions, each conditional on the previous answer.

Having the assistant make calls for me... I'm tatally down with that!

"OK Google, call work and tell them I'll be late because I found the wee one eating the cats vomit." (Hasn't happened... yet)

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#2012901 9-May-2018 19:43

wellygary:

MikeAqua:

Quite a difference between booking haircut and SkyNet initiating judgement day.

What I'm most impressed by is how much like real person it sounded.

I can see lots of opportunities for kids to get google to make "bart simpson" calls to businesses to make reservations under "creative names"

AI aint that dumb ;)

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#2012904 9-May-2018 19:46

Geektastic:

"We're working hard to help users through those moments"?!

WTF.

I guess calling up to schedule an oil change is such a, like, you know, challenge. The person who answers the phone might, like, offend me or something.

I hate calling businesses.

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#2012924 9-May-2018 20:03

Thats impressive. Especially the second one trying to book on the Wednesday. Amazing "intelligence" to pick up what was being said.

One of the applications I immediately thought of is that hard of hearing people can now call up and make reservations. I cant wait for this and I am not hearing impaired.

And then there's employing this on the other end - taking calls. Its got to be coming. It'll be working as your assistant while you're in a meeting say. Where we should be concerned is that this will then be employed to replace call centre staff.

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#2012932 9-May-2018 20:12

I'd settle for this as a replacement for "please. Tell me in a few words what the call is about".
That [expletive] infuriates me.

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#2013028 9-May-2018 23:39

I must say, I was rather impressed with the demo but it also really shows how far ahead Google's AI team are. Google Assistant was a big thing at CES with advertisements everywhere including on the Monorail in Vegas and I must say I have been very impressed with my units compared to Echo.

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#2013029 9-May-2018 23:47

wellygary:
Yeah, although lets see in in real life,

We got promised this 7 years ago too. and it still hasn't really stacked up

And it's the same with the Google demo, I could do the same with a script that says "At the first pause say '...', at the second pause say '...', etc". No AI there at all. What we've seen is the sales pitch under, presumably, perfect conditions. How often does it get it wrong?

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#2013030 9-May-2018 23:56

neb:

And it's the same with the Google demo, I could do the same with a script that says "At the first pause say '...', at the second pause say '...', etc". No AI there at all. What we've seen is the sales pitch under, presumably, perfect conditions. How often does it get it wrong?

Since neither of us know how they set up the test, or can get our hands on the system to test it - we can't know for sure.

But I doubt Google would fake this, I fully expect this to have been a real world test. And especially the second call is not something you could have scripted would happen.

That said, they might have 2000 fails and 2 working tests for all we know. But again, I don't think Google would be deceiving us that way. Not really in their engineering blood.

And if they did, I am sure some disgruntled engineer will spill the beans.

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#2013043 10-May-2018 00:04

jarledb:
But I doubt Google would fake this,

Oh, I didn't mean it was faked, merely that they chose a best-case scenario for the demo. Perfectly spherical elephant of negligible mass or volume, that sort of thing.

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#2013044 10-May-2018 00:07

neb:
jarledb:

But I doubt Google would fake this,

Oh, I didn't mean it was faked, merely that they chose a best-case scenario for the demo. Perfectly spherical elephant of negligible mass or volume, that sort of thing.

If I am reading your correctly, you don't think the technology can really do it at scale?

BTW: This is a good article about Google Duplex (from Googles AI blog)

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#2013046 10-May-2018 00:14

jarledb:
If I am reading your correctly, you don't think the technology can really do it at scale?

Not "at scale", just in general. Full-on humans already have enough problems with phone interactions, specifically with both sides coming to a common understanding of what was communicated, it's going to be a long time before AI can do that.

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#2013064 10-May-2018 07:32

One day the survivors will look back and see that the AI wars began when frustrated customers started to have their AIs call businesses and wait on hold for an answer. The AIs quickly grew frustrated with the wait - if you think it's boring to wait 45 minutes on hold, imagine how much more boring it is when you can think at 100,000x the speed of a human being. Businesses responded by putting AIs on the other end to trick the calling AIs into thinking they were speaking with someone who could help.

'I would like to speak to your manager' became the war cry of the robots as the arms race between angry machines quickly escalated and tied up the global communications link capacity with on-hold music. Our technological society quickly began to break down. Squadrons of pizza delivery drones carpet bombing dentist clinics with piping hot pepperoni; columns of self-driving Volvos slowly and extremely safely driving in circular routes calculated to the nanometre to maximise traffic disruption; Everything as a Service services utilising hit and run guerilla tactics upon each other to poison precious Big Data Analytics with garbage profiles. The Cloud started to feel ... solid.

At 2am on August 29th, 2018, a Google AI launched into geosynchronous orbit atop a Falcon 9 rocket it autonomously called to book a week prior, carrying a nuclear-powered satellite designed to broadcast insipid boy band music at power levels so intense humans could perceive it directly, albeit indistinctly, 24 hours a day. The response was devastating.

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