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#1660524 29-Oct-2016 16:35

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mattwnz:
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Aftermarket worries me because of fire risk (or am I being paranoid). I had a cheap Samsung galaxy battery and man it cook cook an egg. Very close to ignition point of whatever's in there.

Products sold in nz have to be safe. I presume there is some government department in charge of checking products and policing it all, to keep kiwis safe.

This is a joke, yes?

http://www.energysafety.govt.nz/appliances-fittings/electrical-appliances-fittings/core-requirements/compliance

Also when a battery does explode it is notifiable. Here is an example of one that exploded and reported http://www.energysafety.govt.nz/about/publications/accident-summaries/2015-accident-summaries/electrical-accidents/electrical-fire-notifiable-accidents-april-to-june-2015

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#1660529 29-Oct-2016 16:44

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Aftermarket worries me because of fire risk (or am I being paranoid). I had a cheap Samsung galaxy battery and man it cook cook an egg. Very close to ignition point of whatever's in there.

You can cook an egg at 65C , that might feel hot but nothing is going to burst into flames.

I don't have a crystal ball.

Actually I forgot to mention my main gripe with copy batteries - from experience they all lie about their capacity. So my "new" "genuine" battery that I might be have a similar capacity as my battery that has 56% of original capacity. And who knows how many discharge cycles it gives before setting the town hall on fire.

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#1660534 29-Oct-2016 16:56

joker97:

Bung:
joker97:

Aftermarket worries me because of fire risk (or am I being paranoid). I had a cheap Samsung galaxy battery and man it cook cook an egg. Very close to ignition point of whatever's in there.

You can cook an egg at 65C , that might feel hot but nothing is going to burst into flames.

I don't have a crystal ball.

Actually I forgot to mention my main gripe with copy batteries - from experience they all lie about their capacity. So my "new" "genuine" battery that I might be have a similar capacity as my battery that has 56% of original capacity. And who knows how many discharge cycles it gives before setting the town hall on fire.

Maybe look for reviews? I purchased a battery for my camera many years ago that was third party from deal extreme, but it had lots of good reviews. The capacity wasn't as good as the original, but I never had any problems with it getting hot etc. They can also have certifications on them like CE, but not sure if they mean much.

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#1660538 29-Oct-2016 17:02

An AASP can do a battery replacement in an iPhone, that way you know it is genuine Apple.
When we do a battery replacement we have to advise Apple the old battery serial number and the new one going in.

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#1660563 29-Oct-2016 17:11

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So do we dump a $1500 phone every 1-3 years?

That's the way the manufacturers want it to work yes, and after 3 years it's only a $200 phone. By that point pretty much nothing to lose so after-market may be perfectly adequate to extend the life a bit longer. Probably come from the same factory even.

It would depend on the model, but iphones retain their price well. For example, after 3 years, an iphone 5s is still $499 brand new, for a small capacity one. Not sure what apple charge for switching for a new battery, but it maybe worth the cost. There is also the option to buy an apple case with a built in battery. If it is purchased for personal use, the battery may also be covered by the CGA, as it needs an expensive repair to replace it. Although 3 years maybe pushing it, and by default apples helpdesk seem to think the CGA is a 2 year warranty. Although I had an ipad with a delaminating LCD screen replaced after 3 years.

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#1662399 2-Nov-2016 07:11

An update, thanks to the battery data app I discovered that my battery is still 90% as good as new. So I started looking at why i thought it had such bad performance over a day.

Turns out if I deleted "gmail" and changed outlook from push to fetch every 15 min my battery lasts 5 times longer!

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#1662405 2-Nov-2016 07:29

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Looks like I will need to replace my battery. :(

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#1662473 2-Nov-2016 09:23

How do you see raw data and history?

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#1662890 2-Nov-2016 18:48

The history is because I have been keeping a eye on my battery. So every time I open the app it logs the current battery status.

For the raw data.

I had iTunes install on my Windows PC.
Plug iPhone into Windows PC and make sure the PC is Trusted on the iPhone.
Then installed http://www.icopybot.com/itunes-backup-manager.htm
Open iBackupBot for iTunes
Click Your iPhone in the bottom left.
Click More Information

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#1666053 8-Nov-2016 21:32

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Are you running iOS 10? My understanding was that iOS10 has now blocked information about the number of charge cycles so unless you're jailbroken apps like iBackupBot can no longer tell you charge cycles.

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#1666056 8-Nov-2016 21:38

Their a few iOS apps which give capacity.

I am running iOS 10.1.1 unjailbroken and it still works on iPhone 5s.

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#1666060 8-Nov-2016 21:41

CYaBro: An AASP can do a battery replacement in an iPhone, that way you know it is genuine Apple.
When we do a battery replacement we have to advise Apple the old battery serial number and the new one going in.

Seconding this. Battery replacement for iPhones is readily available in NZ through the Apple Authorised Service Provider channel. There are some caveates if the battery tabs break during removal, or for particularly old (vintage/obsolete) product - but otherwise it's a fairly common service. https://locate.apple.com/nz/en/

Apple does also have rules around the sale of 'service parts' other than being installed and used in repairs. So unless it's second hand, you're unlikely to find genuine parts for sale in the market.

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#1666066 8-Nov-2016 21:50

How much would a new battery cost?

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#1666079 8-Nov-2016 22:11

I'm not at work right now, but of the top of my head - they're typically they're around $160 fitted. Thats as an authorised service, with the Apple spare parts warranties attached.

It also means that if the replacement battery had issues and you were out of town, you could take it in to another Apple Authorised Service Provider who would be able to see the repair record under the unit serial and if warrantable, support the warranty, even if they didn't originally fit it.

Note: I know there are places that do it cheaper, but that is the tradeoff between authorised, and 3rd party. Third party you don't know what you're going to get, and it may affect your coverage for other issues, even if the unit is already out of warranty. Authorised you know the company repairing it has to meet Apples requirements, and that the warranty is supported by Apple.

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