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#1864571 13-Sep-2017 15:30

mattwnz:

Behodar:

The specs say that it "requires an iPhone 5s or later with iOS 11 or later".

On the apple watch page at https://www.apple.com/watch/ it says it need an iphone 6 or later as per below. It is odd though that an iphone 5s wouldn't work, as that also support ios11. But Apple doesn't usually make errors with this sort of info.

Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) requires an iPhone 6 or later with iOS 11 or later. Apple Watch and iPhone service provider must be the same. Not available with all service providers. Roaming is not available outside your carrier network coverage area. Wireless service plan required for cellular service. Contact your service provider for more details. Check www.apple.com/watch/cellular for participating wireless carriers and eligibility.

That's interesting! The same page on the NZ site says it needs a 5S. Granted that the local model doesn't have LTE; I wonder whether there's something inherent to LTE that makes it require a 6, or whether it's just an error.

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#1864581 13-Sep-2017 15:43

mattwnz:

Behodar:

The specs say that it "requires an iPhone 5s or later with iOS 11 or later".

On the apple watch page at https://www.apple.com/watch/ it says it need an iphone 6 or later as per below. It is odd though that an iphone 5s wouldn't work, as that also support ios11. But Apple doesn't usually make errors with this sort of info.

Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) requires an iPhone 6 or later with iOS 11 or later. Apple Watch and iPhone service provider must be the same. Not available with all service providers. Roaming is not available outside your carrier network coverage area. Wireless service plan required for cellular service. Contact your service provider for more details. Check www.apple.com/watch/cellular for participating wireless carriers and eligibility.

Apparently iPhone 6 had Bluetooth 4.2, while the 5s only had 4.0. 4.2 added IPV6 support, maybe the LTE watch uses IPv6, and the existing ones don't?

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#1864584 13-Sep-2017 15:53

old3eyes:

Behodar:

It was called "Tandem" if I recall correctly.

I think you're right.

I had tandem.

The primary phone had to be turned off (or out of coverage) for calls to be diverted to the secondary phone.

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#1864586 13-Sep-2017 15:55

The question now is whether or not I want to wait for the LTE watch at an unknown date and put up with the likely ridiculous NZ carrier pricing, or just get the non LTE model. 🤔

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#1864606 13-Sep-2017 16:27

Wiggum:
I recall a time when car phones, and personal cell phones could share the same MSID. It can't be too hard to implement surely? Vodafone called the service "carphone two" or something like that.

Was called car phone duo and they did not share the same MSISDN

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#1864613 13-Sep-2017 16:36

Paparangi: The question now is whether or not I want to wait for the LTE watch at an unknown date and put up with the likely ridiculous NZ carrier pricing, or just get the non LTE model. 🤔

Personally, I don't see any point in buying the non-LTE model especially if you already have a Series 2. Spark already offer the Samsung Gear s3 with 3G on a shared plan so I suspect they will do the same. Just the usual Apple staggered roll out.

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#1864646 13-Sep-2017 17:44

Guessing that is why they are no longer selling the series 2, and will only sell the series 1 version alongside the series 3

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#1864736 13-Sep-2017 20:24

Interestingly the NZ Apple site is only listing aluminium case variants for the series 3. I assume that stainless steel will be available at a later stage along with LTE.

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#1864749 13-Sep-2017 20:36

Linux:
Wiggum:

I recall a time when car phones, and personal cell phones could share the same MSID. It can't be too hard to implement surely? Vodafone called the service "carphone two" or something like that.

Was called car phone duo and they did not share the same MSISDN

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Yes thats the name I was looking for. I think you right, they did not share the same MSID, but both could receive calls on the same number. Outgoing calls if I recall correctly had a different number.

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#1864751 13-Sep-2017 20:39

alasta:

Interestingly the NZ Apple site is only listing aluminium case variants for the series 3. I assume that stainless steel will be available at a later stage along with LTE.

I think SS is only available in LTE, hence not available in NZ.

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#1864756 13-Sep-2017 20:49

Paparangi: Apple rep says NZ will get LTE watch in a later release wave later this year. No further details given.

Where did you get this information from?

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#1864757 13-Sep-2017 20:49

lxsw20:

alasta:

Interestingly the NZ Apple site is only listing aluminium case variants for the series 3. I assume that stainless steel will be available at a later stage along with LTE.

I think SS is only available in LTE, hence not available in NZ.

Thanks - that would explain it.

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#1864763 13-Sep-2017 20:55

corksta:
Paparangi: Apple rep says NZ will get LTE watch in a later release wave later this year. No further details given.

Where did you get this information from?

Apple Live Chat Rep on Apple.com/nz

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#1864766 13-Sep-2017 21:01

Paparangi:
corksta:

Paparangi: Apple rep says NZ will get LTE watch in a later release wave later this year. No further details given.

Where did you get this information from?

Apple Live Chat Rep on Apple.com/nz

I don't know how reliable that is. Tim Cook said during the keynote that other countries would follow next year, their press release also says the same.

Customers will be able to order Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) beginning Friday, September 15, with availability beginning Friday, September 22 in Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Japan, Puerto Rico, Switzerland, the UK and the US, with other countries following next year. For carrier availability, visit apple.com/watch/cellular.

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#1864780 13-Sep-2017 21:27

corksta:
Paparangi:
corksta:

Paparangi: Apple rep says NZ will get LTE watch in a later release wave later this year. No further details given.

Where did you get this information from?

Apple Live Chat Rep on Apple.com/nz

I don't know how reliable that is. Tim Cook said during the keynote that other countries would follow next year, their press release also says the same.

Customers will be able to order Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) beginning Friday, September 15, with availability beginning Friday, September 22 in Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Japan, Puerto Rico, Switzerland, the UK and the US, with other countries following next year. For carrier availability, visit apple.com/watch/cellular.

I don’t know, just passing on what I was told. They did have to go away and refer to their ‘resources’, so I assume it must be written down somewhere.

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