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#685381 13-Sep-2012 10:00

Anyone want to have a guess as to which model NZ will get?

GSM model A1428*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 4 and 17)

CDMA model A1429*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)

GSM model A1429*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5)

Also, can anyone confirm what band Telecom's LTE network will be? Hopefully one of these will match up to the models offered. I've heard it's 700MHz but apparently there's 700b and 700c... Then I think someone earlier posted it was band 3?

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#685383 13-Sep-2012 10:04

Well, you can safely rule out the CDMA model.

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#685386 13-Sep-2012 10:05

Anyone know if Lightning has USB3 support?

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#685389 13-Sep-2012 10:08

stevenz:
sbiddle:
stevenz:
I'm not the target audience obviously, and given the total lack of LTE support for the forseeable future in NZ, the only obvious advantage of this phone is a bigger display. Faster CPU? The 4S was hardly "slow".

LTE in NZ is a lot closer than you think.

Oh I know Telecom have LTE hardware in place already and I guess the iPhone5 would be a good flagship phone for them to launch it on. I'm happy to eat my hat if it has any remotely widespread release this year.

Who says Telecom have a LTE network in place? And what about Vodafone's LTE? That'll hit the market well before Telecom.

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#685391 13-Sep-2012 10:09

It?s not clear that NFC is the solution to any current problem, Schiller said

hmm

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#685394 13-Sep-2012 10:11

stevenz: Well, you can safely rule out the CDMA model.

The CDMA model has GSM and can support 5 different LTE bands, the GSM model only supports 3 LTE bands. Which is weird.

It seems the CDMA model is the most global phone in terms of carrier compatibility.

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#685398 13-Sep-2012 10:17

Will probably get the new ipod touch, as has most features of the new iphone, including siri but again nothing bigger than 64GB.
The new iphone is underwhelming. I thought apple were supposed to be the innovators. Weird that they have got rif of the old nano . They have missed an oppurtunity there, as many people were turning them into watches. They could have turned that into a watch themselves, like sony have. I think apple are beginning to lose their touch, as this has been the most underwealming update since the 4s, but at least the 4s had siri. The iphone 5 looks a little and and boxy now compared to the s3, but I guess they will still sell.

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#685399 13-Sep-2012 10:18

hairy1: If I was an Apple fan with a bunch of docks I would be a little annoyed. What about all those ipod docks at Harvey Norman? What is going to happen to them?

They'll be sold?
Probably for not much... but then they'll be replaced by Lightning compatible models.
As an aside, many manufacturers were bringing out USB ports rather than the pricey Apple dock - to 'future proof themselves', as well as Bluetooth, DLNA and Airplay wireless connectivity.
I don't believe people will rush out to buy the new docks, but if you've got no immediate plans to update your iDevice, a bargain could be had? Especially if you pick up one with network capabilities.

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#685412 13-Sep-2012 10:24

Dunnersfella:
hairy1: If I was an Apple fan with a bunch of docks I would be a little annoyed. What about all those ipod docks at Harvey Norman? What is going to happen to them?

They'll be sold?
Probably for not much... but then they'll be replaced by Lightning compatible models.
As an aside, many manufacturers were bringing out USB ports rather than the pricey Apple dock - to 'future proof themselves', as well as Bluetooth, DLNA and Airplay wireless connectivity.
I don't believe people will rush out to buy the new docks, but if you've got no immediate plans to update your iDevice, a bargain could be had? Especially if you pick up one with network capabilities.

Yeah. I know they will be sold. The one thing that used to frustrate me about docks was that they were all built for iDevices. There are finally some decent bluetooth ones on the market now. Also now Jelly bean supports USB Audio but that is for another thread...

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#685414 13-Sep-2012 10:26

geekiegeek:
ibuksh:
sbiddle:
stevenz:
I'm not the target audience obviously, and given the total lack of LTE support for the forseeable future in NZ, the only obvious advantage of this phone is a bigger display. Faster CPU? The 4S was hardly "slow".

LTE in NZ is a lot closer than you think.

Even if we put LTE aside.. this phone doesnt offer anything new or doesnt have any mind blowing features..

What "mind blowing features" are left to add to phones? Its been said by many that the hardware on modern smartphones has pretty much peaked. So IMHO it comes down to apps, os and whether you prefer a particular form factor over another.

For myself I prefer aluminium and glass over plastic, I already have many IOS apps and an ipad\apple tv and don't really have any need for NFC. I'm also a geek so tend to upgrade just because its in my genes. 3gs->4->4s->5

Pretty much my thoughts too. I like integration so the entire package is more than the phone. If it was just me, I would probably upgrade, but my wife needs a smartphone, time to retire my old E71, so I will get the 5 and give her the 4S. Nice to have a new phone, and the speed, camera and battery will offer a gain. iOS adds to that. But keen to see a realtime review first.

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#685424 13-Sep-2012 10:42

hairy1:
Yeah. I know they will be sold. The one thing that used to frustrate me about docks was that they were all built for iDevices. There are finally some decent bluetooth ones on the market now. Also now Jelly bean supports USB Audio but that is for another thread...

But we all know why they're built for iDevices. Heck, even Samsung's new dock that works with the S series leaves you docking the S2 upside down...
I mean... come on. And even when the S3 docks, it still sends audio via Bluetooth and not via USB.
Just odd.

Having said that, the top dock also has a vacuum tube gimmick thing happening - so yeah, I guess there's a reason why Samsung don't make docks for their phones. They're pretty much arse about face.
Maybe they could get Google to design one, so they could then buy a license and put a few options out on the market?

As an aside, the best Bluetooth dock I've heard recently is the JBL Extreme - good sound, but wow it's an ugly brute of a thing!

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#685433 13-Sep-2012 10:50

Just thinking about my in-laws who bought a $600 iphone dock for sitting on their kitchen bench. Stink for them. I love my squeezebox boom which is device independent. I should have bought some more when they were $230.

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#685436 13-Sep-2012 10:54

hairy1: Just thinking about my in-laws who bought a $600 iphone dock for sitting on their kitchen bench. Stink for them. I love my squeezebox boom which is device independent. I should have bought some more when they were $230.

They'd probably have to get the adapter

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#685437 13-Sep-2012 10:56

sbiddle:
Who says Telecom have a LTE network in place? And what about Vodafone's LTE? That'll hit the market well before Telecom.

I guess they could've implemented a non-LTE 4G network. I'm only assuming. Apologies.

Regardless, LTE is surely less of a drawcard given the availability of WiFi these days.

Docks that use Bluetooth audio are never going to be anything amazing until both the device and the dock supports something newer than the antiquated Bluetooth 2.x standards as the bandwidth is pretty poor.

This is where the iDevices have a huge advantage, the digital output from that dock means that the device itself can largely cease to be a factor in the audio quality. It's up to the source material and the audio processing in the dock.

hairy1: Just thinking about my in-laws who bought a $600 iphone dock for sitting on their kitchen bench. Stink for them. I love my squeezebox boom which is device independent. I should have bought some more when they were $230.

Do they _need_ to upgrade their phone(s) or can they just stick with a 4S?

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#685440 13-Sep-2012 11:01

stevenz: I guess they could've implemented a non-LTE 4G network. I'm only assuming. Apologies.

It is LTE.

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