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  #803914 22-Apr-2013 20:51
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Depending on how much you want the data:

A: Don't do anything which may cause further corruption (including trying to initlaize, reformat, parttion, chkdsk or similar)

B: Find someone with a physical pc that still supports IDE, and try putting them in there, rather than an USB-> IDE Bridge.

C: If they still detect at a hardware level, but fail to show as valid drives, try scanning them with some _decent_ data recovery software that find damaged partitions, or recover files indpendently of the partitions.

D: If you don't mind waiting a bit, and paying postage, I'm happy to attempt to recover them for you (I live in Kapiti, so postage form Palmy should be fairly reasonable). If the drives are physically damaged it's beyond me (don't have a clean room or the specialist knowledge to rebuild them) but I know more about software recovery than many people who aren't recovery specialists.

E: Pay someone like datalab.co.nz to do a pro recovery, but be prepared to look at a bill of $1000+









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  #804022 23-Apr-2013 01:13
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Lias: Depending on how much you want the data:

A: Don't do anything which may cause further corruption (including trying to initlaize, reformat, parttion, chkdsk or similar)

B: Find someone with a physical pc that still supports IDE, and try putting them in there, rather than an USB-> IDE Bridge.

C: If they still detect at a hardware level, but fail to show as valid drives, try scanning them with some _decent_ data recovery software that find damaged partitions, or recover files indpendently of the partitions.

D: If you don't mind waiting a bit, and paying postage, I'm happy to attempt to recover them for you (I live in Kapiti, so postage form Palmy should be fairly reasonable). If the drives are physically damaged it's beyond me (don't have a clean room or the specialist knowledge to rebuild them) but I know more about software recovery than many people who aren't recovery specialists.

E: Pay someone like datalab.co.nz to do a pro recovery, but be prepared to look at a bill of $1000+


I'm not sure how much I want the data as I am not sure what is on the drives. I *hope* a file I am after is on one of them. 

Can you recommend some good data recovery software? I installed the trial version of Hard Disk Sentinel to see what it would say about them. It sees the disks but cannot see any volumes. 

I cannot completely eliminate the external case as a problem since the only two disks I've tried with this case have the same issue. I'm not totally confident that an external IDE -> USB3 is reliable. I might have to weight the costs of buying recovery software compared to some hardware fixes to get the old IDE PC running again (I have most of it). 

I'd be very happy to send the disks off to you Lias, but would hate to waste your time. I will for sure take you up on your kind offer if I can find a way to see that there are files there first. AND know if the disks are physically sound. 

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  #804643 24-Apr-2013 05:16
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Elpie: 
I'm not sure how much I want the data as I am not sure what is on the drives. I *hope* a file I am after is on one of them. 

Can you recommend some good data recovery software? I installed the trial version of Hard Disk Sentinel to see what it would say about them. It sees the disks but cannot see any volumes. 

I cannot completely eliminate the external case as a problem since the only two disks I've tried with this case have the same issue. I'm not totally confident that an external IDE -> USB3 is reliable. I might have to weight the costs of buying recovery software compared to some hardware fixes to get the old IDE PC running again (I have most of it). 

I'd be very happy to send the disks off to you Lias, but would hate to waste your time. I will for sure take you up on your kind offer if I can find a way to see that there are files there first. AND know if the disks are physically sound. 


Can HD Sentinel read the smart information on them (e.g. do they have a health raiting, or is it unknown)

If they are showing as healthy then they should be physically sound.

In my experience USB -> IDE Bridges aren't particularly reliable, but its probably also worth you changing the master/slave/CS/standalone jumper around (when disconnected and powered off) on the drives, as sometimes that can cause weirdness as well.

As for software, I tend to use R-Studio, but I've also used UFS Explorer which is magic for recovering raid arrays.




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Also, have you tested the USB case with some know good drives. My drive is still avail, if I were able to arrange a drop off time with you :)




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Lias: 
Can HD Sentinel read the smart information on them (e.g. do they have a health raiting, or is it unknown)

If they are showing as healthy then they should be physically sound.



Nope, it's an unknown health rating. It wants to do a surface scan but since that necessitates buying HD Sentinel, I haven't done this. 

I'm rebuilding a PC so I can bypass the USB bridge. Will let you know how I get on. 

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  #806368 27-Apr-2013 14:49
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MadEngineer: Also, have you tested the USB case with some know good drives. My drive is still avail, if I were able to arrange a drop off time with you :)


Cheers. No, I haven't tested the case (no other IDE drives lying around to test it with). If my PC rebuild this weekend doesn't work out I'll message you. Thanks. 

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Howd you get on?




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