[Snap] How to destroy trust in one easy step.

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Master Geek

#654270 12-Jul-2012 02:34

l43a2: this just seems abit over the top.

riahon

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Ultimate Geek

#654272 12-Jul-2012 05:32

How many other companies, even small one man band lawn mowing companies, send "post it" notes for ANYTHING? I thought the original post was just a one-off and someone was bypassing a system so the customer received the modem quicker but if this is an actual process, I would not touch Snap if someone thinks is acceptable in this day and age.

HyperBlade

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#654310 12-Jul-2012 08:57

nakedmolerat:

right... same password for different services. whose fault is that?

this network password is not a big deal and certainly not the end of the world.

ADSL is one of the first services set up for a person that requires a password, its how they initially get online, they then sign up for many services after this each asking for a password. We don't live in a perfect world so yes people use the same password.

Especially as password managers were not common 5 years ago.

Its not just the network password, its also the one used to access their website which holds call history etc.

riahon

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#654317 12-Jul-2012 09:04

What would have been cool is if they sent the post it notes with password = ********

BuffyNZ

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#654318 12-Jul-2012 09:05

riahon: What would have been cool is if they sent the post it notes with password = ********

Hey, how did you find out my password!

I know someone who uses the password 'eightstars'. I LOL'd.

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#654333 12-Jul-2012 09:30

There is a very large and popular NZ website that stored passwords in plain text for many years ;) Believe this is no longer the case, tho.

NB. I'm not referring to this website

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Lorenceo

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#654458 12-Jul-2012 12:21

I don't see the problem here. My ISP login password is different from all other passwords I use online. I've had other ISPs send letters with setup instructions which included the username and password to log in. These were sent in envelopes via the post, no signature or anything required.

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#654485 12-Jul-2012 12:58

Lorenceo: I don't see the problem here. My ISP login password is different from all other passwords I use online. I've had other ISPs send letters with setup instructions which included the username and password to log in. These were sent in envelopes via the post, no signature or anything required.

I think the problem is that it was both his adsl password (which I would expect to be generated\readable by ISP and no big deal) as well as his snap SITE password, indicating they're likely storing user created passwords in clear text; that's a bit of a no no, though yeah probably more common than people realize. And not really the end of the world IMO...

The real moral is: use different passwords for different sites\services. At the very least use different passwords (or two factor authentication or similar) for your important services (banking, main email accounts, etc)

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zCelicaDude

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#654606 12-Jul-2012 14:57

I for one don't like the fact that snap employees have the ability to see my password..

Thanks for pointing this one out...

TBH its kind of rude, as the snap adsl/vdsl/webmail passwords are the same (in my case) ...

To me, thats the same as someone opening mail from the bank,.. it's not on

vexxxboy

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#654638 12-Jul-2012 16:00

i cant see why people are getting so upset that Snap can see your password, what are they going to do with it, and im not being smart, i would really like to know what they would do with it.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#654648 12-Jul-2012 16:06

vexxxboy: i cant see why people are getting so upset that Snap can see your password, what are they going to do with it, and im not being smart, i would really like to know what they would do with it.

Same question here, what would it matter if someone had my DSL password?

richms

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#654661 12-Jul-2012 16:27

I dont recall the password being on the post it I got on the box. I was more worried about the modem being unwrapped and rattling around in the box making cardboard dust and covering it in that and rubbing the spark eroded finish smooth where it is in contact with the cardboard.

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NZSimplicity

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#654665 12-Jul-2012 16:37

I don't recall seeing my password on my box either...

But come on peoples, Ralph has stated

I'd like to apologise for any errors in the postage and handling of the Fritz!Boxes. We are currently reviewing this process and the way that Fritz!Boxes are configured and sent.

So why continue this on, it like flogging a dead horse (nothing against horses :) ) - we all know that ralph is good as his word, and when he says it being reviewed then I for one believe him..

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#654668 12-Jul-2012 16:40

Probably with my password they were like "oh sod this, I will just copy and paste it" since I use lastpass to make decent ones for things. Long decent ones.

IIRC snap had a problem with their signup with the password length on the fields.

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#654689 12-Jul-2012 17:01

BuffyNZ: I know someone who uses the password 'eightstars'. I LOL'd.

But that would be 10 stars.

They need to use "ninestars".

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