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#1071320 20-Jun-2014 21:58

quentinreade: Hi guys,
The plan is to keep the brands separate. We'll take the best elements from each company and work hard to make sure everyone is happy.
Having worked at both companies, I can really see how this will work well.
Cheers!

HAHA I was just about to make some comment that no sooner do you escape then you are right back where you started.

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#1071334 20-Jun-2014 22:23

networkn:
quentinreade: Hi guys,
The plan is to keep the brands separate. We'll take the best elements from each company and work hard to make sure everyone is happy.
Having worked at both companies, I can really see how this will work well.
Cheers!

HAHA I was just about to make some comment that no sooner do you escape then you are right back where you started.

He tried running. But he couldn't hide :-)

Regards FireEngine

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#1071336 20-Jun-2014 22:29

FireEngine:
networkn:
quentinreade: Hi guys,
The plan is to keep the brands separate. We'll take the best elements from each company and work hard to make sure everyone is happy.
Having worked at both companies, I can really see how this will work well.
Cheers!

HAHA I was just about to make some comment that no sooner do you escape then you are right back where you started.

He tried running. But he couldn't hide :-)

Was it like the Elop thing at Nokia?

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#1071356 20-Jun-2014 23:00

Rappelle:Could you possibly elaborate on how Orcon is premium compared to Slingshot? (Honest question :) )

Until June 30th that is probably a question best addressed in the Callplus Forum ;-)

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#1071376 20-Jun-2014 23:51

I do not see orcon as much of a premium brand? Maybe a tad more premium then slingshot?

Orcon was one of slingshots top competitors

Why do they need 3 brands that all do the same thing - provide internet

Top 5 ISP's in New Zealand (My Guess)

Telecom
Vodafone
Orcon
Slingshot
Flip

And now 3 of these are all owned by the same company :/ I don't see this as a good thing

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#1071408 21-Jun-2014 06:05

quentinreade: Hi guys,
The plan is to keep the brands separate. We'll take the best elements from each company and work hard to make sure everyone is happy.
Having worked at both companies, I can really see how this will work well.
Cheers!

Best? They have bests?
Orcon started to go down the toilet after Seeby sold it.
Slingshot has been the pits for a long time.

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#1071417 21-Jun-2014 08:36

There is no mention of the takeover on the Orcon site.

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#1071443 21-Jun-2014 09:30

pctek:
quentinreade: Hi guys,
The plan is to keep the brands separate. We'll take the best elements from each company and work hard to make sure everyone is happy.
Having worked at both companies, I can really see how this will work well.
Cheers!

Best? They have bests?
Orcon started to go down the toilet after Seeby sold it.
Slingshot has been the pits for a long time.

I don't agree with the slingshot being the pits

It use to be sure, however over the last few years they have got a lot better, If I had my pick of any ISP out there I would stay with slingshot.
If anything I see Orcon as a cheaper brand than slingshot these days.

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#1071497 21-Jun-2014 10:30

Can we kiss our Orcon email addresses for life goodbye now??

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#1071498 21-Jun-2014 10:31

I wonder if this would mean slingshot fibre would be crossing over to ultra fast fibre the soon branded "giganet" from next month.Currently callplus only offers plans to business customers on ultra fast fibre.I would like to see another major ISP on ultrafast.

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#1071514 21-Jun-2014 10:55

old3eyes: Can we kiss our Orcon email addresses for life goodbye now??

Nope. They can never ever take it away from you. That's what 'for life' means. If they take it away they open themselves up to a pretty serious comcom investigation. Think how many people may have signed up when they started promoting email for life. They would have to compensate everyone of them for misleading advertising.
(This is why offering something 'for life' or promising you will 'never' do something is very short sighted)

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#1071554 21-Jun-2014 11:44

NonprayingMantis:
old3eyes: Can we kiss our Orcon email addresses for life goodbye now??

Nope. They can never ever take it away from you. That's what 'for life' means. If they take it away they open themselves up to a pretty serious comcom investigation. Think how many people may have signed up when they started promoting email for life. They would have to compensate everyone of them for misleading advertising.
(This is why offering something 'for life' or promising you will 'never' do something is very short sighted)

They could easily take it away from you if the new owners so wished. The promise was made by an entity who no longer exists. Having said that, it will not be removed. They will have a hard enough time selling this idea, without annoying people even more by taking away their free thing. Personally though, I can't
imagine why anyone would want an @orcon address for life! :)

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#1071555 21-Jun-2014 11:45

pctek:
quentinreade: Hi guys,
The plan is to keep the brands separate. We'll take the best elements from each company and work hard to make sure everyone is happy.
Having worked at both companies, I can really see how this will work well.
Cheers!

Best? They have bests?
Orcon started to go down the toilet after Seeby sold it.
Slingshot has been the pits for a long time.

Actually slingshot is really good these days.

Support is fast and even front line desk support is good (usually I dread front line help).

Speed is really good, can max VDSL (around 40 Mbps) even on p2p.
You tube is flawless.
Latency is very low too.

I get lower latencies than most others who are on Voda cable, or other ISP's VDSL in my area.

The "pits" would be worldnet, perhaps compass still?

NZ / AU Battlefield 4 Gaming Community
http://www.sonsofvalour.net/forums/forum.php

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#1071594 21-Jun-2014 12:25

networkn:
NonprayingMantis:
old3eyes: Can we kiss our Orcon email addresses for life goodbye now??

Nope. They can never ever take it away from you. That's what 'for life' means. If they take it away they open themselves up to a pretty serious comcom investigation. Think how many people may have signed up when they started promoting email for life. They would have to compensate everyone of them for misleading advertising.
(This is why offering something 'for life' or promising you will 'never' do something is very short sighted)

They could easily take it away from you if the new owners so wished. The promise was made by an entity who no longer exists. Having said that, it will not be removed. They will have a hard enough time selling this idea, without annoying people even more by taking away their free thing. Personally though, I can't
imagine why anyone would want an @orcon address for life! :)

Doesn't matter. The promise was made and would be something the new owners would have to have taken into account when making the purchases. It's a liability that they would acquire as part of acquiring orcon.

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#1071595 21-Jun-2014 12:27

NonprayingMantis:
networkn:
NonprayingMantis:
old3eyes: Can we kiss our Orcon email addresses for life goodbye now??

Nope. They can never ever take it away from you. That's what 'for life' means. If they take it away they open themselves up to a pretty serious comcom investigation. Think how many people may have signed up when they started promoting email for life. They would have to compensate everyone of them for misleading advertising.
(This is why offering something 'for life' or promising you will 'never' do something is very short sighted)

They could easily take it away from you if the new owners so wished. The promise was made by an entity who no longer exists. Having said that, it will not be removed. They will have a hard enough time selling this idea, without annoying people even more by taking away their free thing. Personally though, I can't
imagine why anyone would want an @orcon address for life! :)

Doesn't matter. The promise was made and would be something the new owners would have to have taken into account when making the purchases. It's a liability that they would acquire as part of acquiring orcon.

Legally this simply isn't true. Legally the new owners are not obliged to take the liabilities of a company. They will do so, because it would be stunningly bad PR to do otherwise.

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