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  #1508681 9-Mar-2016 09:56
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Anyone know if Voyager do similar ?





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  #1508685 9-Mar-2016 10:04
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freitasm:

 

ajobbins:

 

No idea why you'd want to run your own mail server these days. But a US$5 a month Digital Ocean VPS would be a better option than NZ$20 to an ISP

 

 

I used to run an Exchange Server 2003 at home. Then Microsoft BPOS came along (and its successor Microsoft Office 365) and I never looked at running my own mail server again. Switched years ago.

 

OP must have a very good reason to want to run infrastructure services at home, surely...

 

 

this is geekzone right....because you can seems like a good reason to me :)





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  #1508718 9-Mar-2016 10:43
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gjm:

 

freitasm:

 

ajobbins:

 

No idea why you'd want to run your own mail server these days. But a US$5 a month Digital Ocean VPS would be a better option than NZ$20 to an ISP

 

 

I used to run an Exchange Server 2003 at home. Then Microsoft BPOS came along (and its successor Microsoft Office 365) and I never looked at running my own mail server again. Switched years ago.

 

OP must have a very good reason to want to run infrastructure services at home, surely...

 

 

this is geekzone right....because you can seems like a good reason to me :)

 

 

Can be cost issue too..... I cant afford to buy Server with Exchange etc and fed up with relying on 3rd parties to fix issues that I pay monthly for... if it breaks at home, its my problem and Im not shelling out for someone else to think about a suitable time to look at the problem.

 

 





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  #1509774 9-Mar-2016 12:03
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xpd:

 

Can be cost issue too..... I cant afford to buy Server with Exchange etc and fed up with relying on 3rd parties to fix issues that I pay monthly for... if it breaks at home, its my problem and Im not shelling out for someone else to think about a suitable time to look at the problem.

 

 

But why not do it in a VPS in the cloud somewhere? Simple, cheap reliable and then you don't have to manage infrastructure at home.





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  #1509829 9-Mar-2016 13:01
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ajobbins:

 

xpd:

 

Can be cost issue too..... I cant afford to buy Server with Exchange etc and fed up with relying on 3rd parties to fix issues that I pay monthly for... if it breaks at home, its my problem and Im not shelling out for someone else to think about a suitable time to look at the problem.

 

 

But why not do it in a VPS in the cloud somewhere? Simple, cheap reliable and then you don't have to manage infrastructure at home.

 

 


Already running a box for Plex and game servers anyway, so its not anything extra as such.

 

Also just had word from Seeby himself :

 

"fine as far as I’m concerned (Seeby). I’ll let you know if techs think otherwise. Should b fine long as you’re not a spam risk :-p"





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kelots: Don't think it's up on the website currently as we're having issues with our business addons page, currently things like this, CIR and static IPs over blocks of 16 are only available via our CS team/pre sales consultants

For the rest, there is a cost associated to the ISP due to limited number of IPv4 addresses in the world, so the ISPs share these amongst users through varying techniques. Allocating a static ip to a user reduces the number remaining for the ISP to rotate - bit of a weird system but a problem driven by the industry not moving to ipv6 (this is my simplified understanding and I'm happy to be corrected/expanded on)

The reverse dns lookup I'll need to get more information on, as I mentioned I've not really had much focus on it compared to the rest of our product set until today

 

To touch on that @kelots why don't MR lead the charge and start encouraging their users to use IPv6? I recently enquired about moving to MR and was advised:

 

MR via email: In regards to IPv6, we don't offer it yet and our plan to roll it out has been delayed due to lack of customer demand.

 

With further prompting gaining this response:

 

MR via email: IPv6 is a kinda on hiatus at the moment until further notice, sorry.

 

I feel like any ISP that uses CGNat should be a pioneer of native IPv6 and as an ISP that likes to rave about their tech savvy offerings not offering or even considering IPv6 is quite a surprise.


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  #1509988 9-Mar-2016 16:30
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Personally I want this from a "being first" perspective, but to put it bluntly I'm having trouble building the business case (specifically quantifying the benefits and getting it into the priority queue)

Are you aware of any ISPs internationally that have made the move?




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kelots: Personally I want this from a "being first" perspective, but to put it bluntly I'm having trouble building the business case (specifically quantifying the benefits and getting it into the priority queue)

Are you aware of any ISPs internationally that have made the move?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment#Deployment_by_country

 

it's not complete but might help :)


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  #1509997 9-Mar-2016 16:42
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Cool thanks




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Will advise Hillary Clinton to not use MyRepublic if she ever moves to NZ...





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kelots: Personally I want this from a "being first" perspective, but to put it bluntly I'm having trouble building the business case (specifically quantifying the benefits and getting it into the priority queue)

Are you aware of any ISPs internationally that have made the move?

 

RSP's Running Dual Stack: Internode in Aus has (as of 2008). AT&T in the US has since 2011 (with 53% of traffic now using IPv6). Charter in US since 2012 (although recent reports state that the roll out has stalled). Comcast have been trialing it since 2011 (with 42% of their traffic now using IPv6). BT in the UK is rolling it out this year to all customers. In NZ 2Degrees support it; Orcon do for DSL and rolling out for Fibre early this year; Inspire and even Woosh (who aren't exactly known for their tech prowess these days).

 

97% of TLD's support IPv6, there are over 7549199 domains world wide with AAAA records yet only 20.9% of ASes run IPV6 (source). Around 17-20% of the world top 1000 websites use native IPv6 inc half of the top 10 (and all of the top 3). Nearly 10% of Googles traffic is now IPv6. Belgium leads the way (according to Akamai) for adoption with 31.7%, where as NZ currently sits at a poultry 39th with 0.8%.

 

The problem we seem to be stuck with is that ISP's say its not worth the investment until services support/require it and services says its not worth the investment until ISP's support it (anecdotal based on my research). It amazes me that I can get a NZ based VPS with dual stack for $5 a month yet I can't get IPv6 with the largest RSP's in the country.

 

To quote MR on their site: "We believe in delivering an awesome internet experience for all kiwis at mass market prices." What better way to have an awesome internet experience than by being able to enjoy everything that the internet has to offer at incredible speeds and an awesome price?


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  #1510035 9-Mar-2016 17:42
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kelots: a problem driven by the industry not moving to ipv6

 

I guess that part of the problem is a lack of knowledge. Case in point: My ISP offers v6 but I wasn't able to get it working. My thread received zero responses. I reposted it on another forum, and once again, zero responses. It seems that this just went straight into the "too hard basket" (probably spurred on by my comment that it's not all that important) but it shows that v6 knowledge is probably a bit lacking compared to with v4.


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  #1540906 23-Apr-2016 22:48
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So, back to the original question....

 

 

 

Please excuse me if I am missing something obvious, but I have to ask:

 

Why not just host your dns records with someone else?


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Reverse DNS, not DNS


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