MTR details released on NBR [ARTICLE]

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#243303 5-Aug-2009 23:04

I don't want to dis 2degrees so early, but the last sentence make them look a bit hypocritical for doing per minute billing.

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#243307 5-Aug-2009 23:25

DarkShadow: I don't want to dis 2degrees so early, but the last sentence make them look a bit hypocritical for doing per minute billing.

I was a little concerned about this and still am.

But as my friend said:

0:59 on Vodafone, 89c
1:01 on Vodafone, 1.78

0:59 on XT, 89c
1:01 on XT, 90c

0:59 on 2 Degrees, 44c
1:01 on 2 Degrees, 88c

To extrapolate,

2:01 on Vodafone, $2.67
2:01 on XT, $1.79
2:01 on 2 Degrees, $1.32

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#243480 6-Aug-2009 14:21

I thought Vodafone does minute plus second billing on Prepay?

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#243483 6-Aug-2009 14:24

juha: I thought Vodafone does minute plus second billing on Prepay?

Not on prepay, they do for On Account I beleive.

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#243491 6-Aug-2009 14:47

Asked Paul Brislen at Vodafone, who says:

"We do minute plus second for PP and second plus second for OA."

Vodafone costs as much as XT, and 2 Degrees is cheapest in the above example.

0:59 on Vodafone, 89c
1:01 on Vodafone, 90c

0:59 on XT, 89c
1:01 on XT, 90c

0:59 on 2 Degrees, 44c
1:01 on 2 Degrees, 88c

2:01 on Vodafone, $1.80
2:01 on XT, $1.80
2:01 on 2 Degrees, $1.32

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#243492 6-Aug-2009 14:52

juha: Asked Paul Brislen at Vodafone, who says:

"We do minute plus second for PP and second plus second for OA."

Vodafone costs as much as XT, and 2 Degrees is cheapest in the above example.

0:59 on Vodafone, 89c
1:01 on Vodafone, 90c

0:59 on XT, 89c
1:01 on XT, 90c

0:59 on 2 Degrees, 44c
1:01 on 2 Degrees, 88c

2:01 on Vodafone, $1.80
2:01 on XT, $1.80
2:01 on 2 Degrees, $1.32

I remember an online ad campaign where XT compared the price of a minute and 21 second call on XT with a minute and 21 second call on Vodafone. XT was charging by the second after the first minute and Vodafone wasn't.

Anyoone got a copy of this ad? It was posted somewhere in the Telecom forum, can't remember where...

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#243498 6-Aug-2009 15:05

When did Vodafone start per second billing? It certainly wasn't the case and they haven't promoted such a change.

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#243501 6-Aug-2009 15:07

Got the wrong information from Paul Brislen... Supa Prepay is minute and minute, so the first set of figures stand.

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#243525 6-Aug-2009 15:50

From memory I heard a quote floating around that minute rounding added on average 25% to the cost of a phone bill.

I did a hunt for the NBR article but it didn't hit googles caches yet, or was flushed. :-( There is no where to read it online. Shocking! There must be one copy somewhere.

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#243535 6-Aug-2009 16:06

exportgoldman:
From memory I heard a quote floating around that minute rounding added on average 25% to the cost of a phone bill.

I did a hunt for the NBR article but it didn't hit googles caches yet, or was flushed. :-( There is no where to read it online. Shocking! There must be one copy somewhere.

That sounds about right to me, makes perfect sense.

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#243540 6-Aug-2009 16:11

Apologies to Juha... I gave him the wrong information.

Supa Prepay is minute plus minute. The older PP plans are, I believe, minute plus second.

My fault.

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http://forum.vodafone.co.nz

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#243544 6-Aug-2009 16:18

juha: Asked Paul Brislen at Vodafone, who says:

"We do minute plus second for PP and second plus second for OA."

I really hate to say it, but it truly worries me when a random member of the public with a keen eye (me) corrects the External Communication Manager of a multi-national.

Now I can't confirm what Paul said, because after all this is reported second hand via Juha (who I don't know).

But unless there has been a MAJOR change to Supa Prepay (which post-dates the following information from their website gathered TODAY), then the information I posted is indeed correct:

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/plans/prepay/supa-prepay-tandcs.jsp

"Calling and video calling is charged on a minute by minute basis".

And second by second billing on account? Are you sure about that?

I'm concerned:

1. If Paul really said this, then what is the meaning behind it? Is it a malicious attempt at spreading misinformation? Or does he really not know??

2. What was the question asked to Paul by juha? I am after all on MotorMouth prepay and DO have per second billing, but we can only compare CURRENT, not LEGACY plans after all.

I reserve my judgement as this is second hand information from juha, and am happy to be corrected if I made any errors.

The point of the comparison above was to say that DESPITE the per minute billing on 2 degrees, you are still never worse off at the end of the day (being my friend's point).

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#243545 6-Aug-2009 16:19

OK, Paul (hi!) jumped in there before I finished my post.

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#243550 6-Aug-2009 16:34

ahmad: I really hate to say it, but it truly worries me when a random member of the public with a keen eye (me) corrects the External Communication Manager of a multi-national.

Now I can't confirm what Paul said, because after all this is reported second hand via Juha (who I don't know).

I know Juha and he's quite capable. I know Paul as well and he's the same.

I don't think it was something to worry about. He came here and corrected the information.

Reality is (and it was) there is an awful lot of plans, enough to confuse anyone. So give him a chance.

I think all those plans should die, die, die and be unified in a single thing with add-ons. It's just "confusion".

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#243558 6-Aug-2009 16:40

freitasm:

I think all those plans should die, die, die and be unified in a single thing with add-ons. It's just "confusion".

Never a truer word...

Juha

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