No more "Fair Use Policy" on Orcon unlimited plans

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Nebbie

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#954328 18-Dec-2013 14:18

Screeb: What's confusing? The statement from Orcon claims that the P2P shaping was "unnoticeable" when it clearly wasn't. That it's no longer shaped is irrelevant. When it was shaped, it was extremely noticeable, contrary to the claim in the statement.

If one was a smart person this may have been a result of congestion not shaping.... :-P

But that aside and back to the original topic: Fair Use Policy....

Most ISP's who offer unlimited type plans use this to protect their network, however in reality its never been used as 1 person on 1 connection should never be able to congest the entire network.

When unlimited was released most customers try and push it see how high they can get their monthly usage like its a completion (Been there done that) however 99.99% of customers this is only a faze and their patterns change as time goes on, as several people have mentioned. I went from 600gb to under 250gb per month....

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BigGuy

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#960232 2-Jan-2014 11:34

Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

FireEngine

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#960492 3-Jan-2014 01:14

BigGuy: Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

It isn't a policy decision but one of priorities. Systems development is needed to be able to offer Static IP on the Unlimited Plan. No promises but I will raise this with the appropriate decision-makers...

Regards FireEngine

gehenna

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#960621 3-Jan-2014 11:54

BigGuy: Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

why not just use dynamic dns?

BigGuy

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#960647 3-Jan-2014 12:49

FireEngine:
BigGuy: Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

It isn't a policy decision but one of priorities. Systems development is needed to be able to offer Static IP on the Unlimited Plan. No promises but I will raise this with the appropriate decision-makers...

Thanks FireEngine.

Aaroona

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#960757 3-Jan-2014 15:01

gehenna:
BigGuy: Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

why not just use dynamic dns?

Definitely an option.

I have DD-WRT setup to automatically update my IP whenever my WAN interface is connected. OpenWRT is very capable of doing this also for a lot of providers (and of course stock firmware).

Personally, the idea of a static IP isn't much of a problem anymore for me. Though it would depend what you were doing of course... (I mainly do RDP, VPN, Web Server), but if you were running a mailserver, maybe not so great?

alliao

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#961273 4-Jan-2014 20:29

How about streaming services on Orcon unlimited? I would like to switch to unlimited, but fearing network performance would be a drop and having no way coming back to the same plan deters the decision..

I'm still on the 200GB and I seem to recall that unlimited users shares the same pool of resources, is that still the case?

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FireEngine

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#961296 4-Jan-2014 21:51

alliao: How about streaming services on Orcon unlimited? I would like to switch to unlimited, but fearing network performance would be a drop and having no way coming back to the same plan deters the decision..

I'm still on the 200GB and I seem to recall that unlimited users shares the same pool of resources, is that still the case?

You can expect the same performance on any of our plans, NONE have traffic shaping.

Regards FireEngine

Kyanar

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#961475 5-Jan-2014 12:34

BigGuy: Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

Times have indeed moved on... IPv4 addresses are now a scarce resource.

Not sure why you'd expect to get a dedicated one on a $99 consumer connection? It's not like Orcon can go fetch some more when they run out.

BigGuy

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#961590 5-Jan-2014 17:40

Kyanar:
BigGuy: Still no static IP address available on this plan. A deal breaker for me :(

While I recognise there is most likely some reason for this passed down from a old policy decision, times have moved on! As should policy.

Times have indeed moved on... IPv4 addresses are now a scarce resource.

Not sure why you'd expect to get a dedicated one on a $99 consumer connection? It's not like Orcon can go fetch some more when they run out.

I have a static IP with Orcon on a consumer connection that I pay for right now. So my expectation is justifiable.

Checking the plans would have given you this information: http://www.orcon.net.nz/external/genius/geniusfibresep12.php. There is an option for static IP down the bottom.

friendlymonkey

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#961601 5-Jan-2014 18:54

alliao: How about streaming services on Orcon unlimited? I would like to switch to unlimited, but fearing network performance would be a drop and having no way coming back to the same plan deters the decision..

I'm still on the 200GB and I seem to recall that unlimited users shares the same pool of resources, is that still the case?

I switched around 8 weeks ago haven't noticed any difference streaming

danielsiva

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#961664 5-Jan-2014 23:18

friendlymonkey:
alliao: How about streaming services on Orcon unlimited? I would like to switch to unlimited, but fearing network performance would be a drop and having no way coming back to the same plan deters the decision..

I'm still on the 200GB and I seem to recall that unlimited users shares the same pool of resources, is that still the case?

I switched around 8 weeks ago haven't noticed any difference streaming

I have it on good authority there is currently no difference in how traffic is treated between the older plans & the unlimited plan.

I used to be on the old 1TB plan & have changed to the standard unlimited. With the exception of the now-dynamic IP, we have not noticed any drop in performance.

alliao

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#964786 10-Jan-2014 17:08

danielsiva:
friendlymonkey:

I switched around 8 weeks ago haven't noticed any difference streaming

I have it on good authority there is currently no difference in how traffic is treated between the older plans & the unlimited plan.

I used to be on the old 1TB plan & have changed to the standard unlimited. With the exception of the now-dynamic IP, we have not noticed any drop in performance.

Thanks FireEngine, danielsiva and friendlymonkey!

I've ordered the VDSL unlimited last night and the package arrived today. Talk about speedy service.
It's now provisioned to switch over on the 15th, can't say I'm not excited :)

I did consider BigPipe, but turns out it's just another Telecom subsidiary which curiously doesn't include VOIP options.
So sticking with Orcon it is! Cheers everyone.

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